(07-07-2014, 08:25 PM)The 7th Sage Wrote: I stopped comparing HF and HC few years ago after my hate for Jesse faded away with time. I was a long time member on his site as well since around 2007-2011 I was one of those members that watched his website grow bit by bit. When I started HC in 2010 which he had nothing to do with, me and Coder-san were banned with a smack on the face for "copyright infrigement" for things he doesn't even legally own rights to. We made a promise to the website that we would make it a better place for all kinds of folks to post. Adults,teens, females no bullshit will be tolerated as long as the threads can be moderated manually. Thankfully the current Admin/Staff is following the same culture.

Both sites have their pros and cons. HF has high user base which means it has a good marketplace but also lot of scammers. However when a user base becomes that big, its difficult for a small portion of people to monitor all the threads/reports/activities that are going on there. HC is still a mid range traffic website. There's people coming viewing threads and leaving quietly, but it also means less try harder teens. Most of the HC members are mature and like the quiet environment away from all the hatred and insults directed at each other with no response from staff.

All I know the owner of HF has become a power hungry dictator, the members there are nothing more high school kids undergoing puberty. Its fine though we don't judge, thats his way of managing his website and the huge influx high school kids on his site, maybe it works for him. As a fellow Webmaster I will always respect his work for the MyBB community. HC is not associated to anyone and should not be compared to other websites. It is the #2 on the "hacking forums" niche so HC Staff is doing something right.

Like they say "Bigger Isn't Always Better".

(07-07-2014, 08:33 PM)Anima Templi Wrote:

(07-07-2014, 08:25 PM)The 7th Sage Wrote: I stopped comparing HF and HC few years ago after my hate for Jesse faded away with time. I was a long time member on his site as well since around 2007-2011 I was one of those members that watched his website grow bit by bit. When I started HC in 2010 which he had nothing to do with, me and Coder-san were banned with a smack on the face for "copyright infrigement" for things he doesn't even legally own rights to. We made a promise to the website that we would make it a better place for all kinds of folks to post. Adults,teens, females no bullshit will be tolerated as long as the threads can be moderated manually. Thankfully the current Admin/Staff is following the same culture.

Both sites have their pros and cons. HF has high user base which means it has a good marketplace but also lot of scammers. However when a user base becomes that big, its difficult for a small portion of people to monitor all the threads/reports/activities that are going on there. HC is still a mid range traffic website. There's people coming viewing threads and leaving quietly, but it also means less try harder teens. Most of the HC members are mature and like the quiet environment away from all the hatred and insults directed at each other with no response from staff.

All I know the owner of HF has become a power hungry dictator, the members there are nothing more high school kids undergoing puberty. Its fine though we don't judge, thats his way of managing his website and the huge influx high school kids on his site, maybe it works for him. As a fellow Webmaster I will always respect his work for the MyBB community. HC is not associated to anyone and should not be compared to other websites. It is the #2 on the "hacking forums" niche so HC Staff is doing something right.

Like they say "Bigger Isn't Always Better".

#2 on the hacking forums niche? Any prove of this?

(07-07-2014, 08:58 PM)The 7th Sage Wrote:

(07-07-2014, 08:33 PM)Anima Templi Wrote:

(07-07-2014, 08:25 PM)The 7th Sage Wrote: I stopped comparing HF and HC few years ago after my hate for Jesse faded away with time. I was a long time member on his site as well since around 2007-2011 I was one of those members that watched his website grow bit by bit. When I started HC in 2010 which he had nothing to do with, me and Coder-san were banned with a smack on the face for "copyright infrigement" for things he doesn't even legally own rights to. We made a promise to the website that we would make it a better place for all kinds of folks to post. Adults,teens, females no bullshit will be tolerated as long as the threads can be moderated manually. Thankfully the current Admin/Staff is following the same culture.

Both sites have their pros and cons. HF has high user base which means it has a good marketplace but also lot of scammers. However when a user base becomes that big, its difficult for a small portion of people to monitor all the threads/reports/activities that are going on there. HC is still a mid range traffic website. There's people coming viewing threads and leaving quietly, but it also means less try harder teens. Most of the HC members are mature and like the quiet environment away from all the hatred and insults directed at each other with no response from staff.

All I know the owner of HF has become a power hungry dictator, the members there are nothing more high school kids undergoing puberty. Its fine though we don't judge, thats his way of managing his website and the huge influx high school kids on his site, maybe it works for him. As a fellow Webmaster I will always respect his work for the MyBB community. HC is not associated to anyone and should not be compared to other websites. It is the #2 on the "hacking forums" niche so HC Staff is doing something right.

Like they say "Bigger Isn't Always Better".

#2 on the hacking forums niche? Any prove of this?

(07-07-2014, 08:58 PM)The 7th Sage Wrote:

(07-07-2014, 08:33 PM)Anima Templi Wrote:

(07-07-2014, 08:25 PM)The 7th Sage Wrote: I stopped comparing HF and HC few years ago after my hate for Jesse faded away with time. I was a long time member on his site as well since around 2007-2011 I was one of those members that watched his website grow bit by bit. When I started HC in 2010 which he had nothing to do with, me and Coder-san were banned with a smack on the face for "copyright infrigement" for things he doesn't even legally own rights to. We made a promise to the website that we would make it a better place for all kinds of folks to post. Adults,teens, females no bullshit will be tolerated as long as the threads can be moderated manually. Thankfully the current Admin/Staff is following the same culture.

Both sites have their pros and cons. HF has high user base which means it has a good marketplace but also lot of scammers. However when a user base becomes that big, its difficult for a small portion of people to monitor all the threads/reports/activities that are going on there. HC is still a mid range traffic website. There's people coming viewing threads and leaving quietly, but it also means less try harder teens. Most of the HC members are mature and like the quiet environment away from all the hatred and insults directed at each other with no response from staff.

All I know the owner of HF has become a power hungry dictator, the members there are nothing more high school kids undergoing puberty. Its fine though we don't judge, thats his way of managing his website and the huge influx high school kids on his site, maybe it works for him. As a fellow Webmaster I will always respect his work for the MyBB community. HC is not associated to anyone and should not be compared to other websites. It is the #2 on the "hacking forums" niche so HC Staff is doing something right.

Like they say "Bigger Isn't Always Better".

#2 on the hacking forums niche? Any prove of this?

(07-07-2014, 09:11 PM)Psycho_Coder Wrote:

(07-07-2014, 08:58 PM)The 7th Sage Wrote:

(07-07-2014, 08:33 PM)Anima Templi Wrote:

(07-07-2014, 08:25 PM)The 7th Sage Wrote: I stopped comparing HF and HC few years ago after my hate for Jesse faded away with time. I was a long time member on his site as well since around 2007-2011 I was one of those members that watched his website grow bit by bit. When I started HC in 2010 which he had nothing to do with, me and Coder-san were banned with a smack on the face for "copyright infrigement" for things he doesn't even legally own rights to. We made a promise to the website that we would make it a better place for all kinds of folks to post. Adults,teens, females no bullshit will be tolerated as long as the threads can be moderated manually. Thankfully the current Admin/Staff is following the same culture.

Both sites have their pros and cons. HF has high user base which means it has a good marketplace but also lot of scammers. However when a user base becomes that big, its difficult for a small portion of people to monitor all the threads/reports/activities that are going on there. HC is still a mid range traffic website. There's people coming viewing threads and leaving quietly, but it also means less try harder teens. Most of the HC members are mature and like the quiet environment away from all the hatred and insults directed at each other with no response from staff.

All I know the owner of HF has become a power hungry dictator, the members there are nothing more high school kids undergoing puberty. Its fine though we don't judge, thats his way of managing his website and the huge influx high school kids on his site, maybe it works for him. As a fellow Webmaster I will always respect his work for the MyBB community. HC is not associated to anyone and should not be compared to other websites. It is the #2 on the "hacking forums" niche so HC Staff is doing something right.

Like they say "Bigger Isn't Always Better".

#2 on the hacking forums niche? Any prove of this?

Well Google results are just SEO techniques to improve the PageRank, thats all I know, imho it doesn't necessarily means that its #2. HF is fucking shit and a place full of crap, I heartily support that but HC is second in hacking forums, that sounds buggy to me, yes its true that HC is good but not the best or even #2. I am a member of EZ as well, and I can say this openly that EZ is better than HC and both in terms or hacking support or programming sections. Quality of threads and resources and several other things.

Oh well, thats my opinion based on what I have seen on EZ (I agree that I don't have much posts on EZ but I am regular) and experience with HC.