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RE: I am here because I need information - x_h0rr0r_x - 08-05-2013
(08-05-2013, 07:52 PM)Terri Wrote: Please send me a message, chmod. I will reply with the information. I am not familiar enough with your board to know how to message you.
Just click on A users name and it will take you to their profile...Scroll down and you will see Send "USER" a private message..
RE: I am here because I need information - Linuxephus™ - 08-05-2013
And on the above comment made by Chmod, including reading the entirety of the thread from the first comment to Chmod's ending statement, this falls within BlackHat related material, viz., "hacking accounts not belong directly to the individual making the request".
Addendum: {I don't think she has known to ask. Since he disappeared while out of town on a "field trip" with a group the police there didn't involve their home. A friend of the family has the computer and is trying to get what he can off of it I believe. Foul play was/is not suspected that I know of. It is unknown if he died in an accident, or was a runaway. He had no money, no car, no shoes, no shirt...where could a kid be for 3 months and no one saw him? But no body was recovered either.}
-->>Not to mention, in Post #10, you make mention of the child being on an "out of town field trip", followed by the underlined contradiction of the child "having no money, car, shoes, nor a shirt".
What is the logic of a parent allowing her child to leave the house on a "field trip" with a " group" (indicating multiple persons) without the above listed items where you contradict yourself in the same sentence?
There is no logic in it save the contradiction mentioned by you as being the tell tale of a deception.
We do not under any circumstances delete Accounts in the Community here.
Thread Closed directly on the merit of Post #16.
RE: I am here because I need information - chmod - 08-05-2013
/Re-opened for further discussion
Although HC staff insist that no illegal action be taken regarding the subject
RE: I am here because I need information - LoneDevil - 08-05-2013
I ask that you send me a private message containing story, article and so on.
I might be able to help you here.
RE: I am here because I need information - Terri - 08-06-2013
Thank you for reopening the thread after I provided valid information about the missing person, as well as my full name. I gave no misinformation. in any post I made.
I also want to make it clear that I never requested that anyone do anything illegal. I stated that I was here asking for information. My only "error" was my assumption that parents of minors had more rights than they apparently do, even in the face of a tragedy.
I came to this board specifically because it said "ethical" and I knew the knowledge base was here. You have answered all my questions and then some.
However, I would like to state that the treatment I received here is inexcusable. I am an honest and ethical and definitely a law abiding citizen. I ask that this community reconsider how assumptions are made and perhaps practice some consideration and manners toward others.
I thank those who were kind enough to take steps to do the right thing in having this thread reopened as a small act of justice towards me. Much appreciated.
RE: I am here because I need information - Linuxephus™ - 08-06-2013
(08-06-2013, 12:09 AM)Terri Wrote: Thank you for reopening the thread after I provided valid information about the missing person, as well as my full name. I gave no misinformation. in any post I made.
I also want to make it clear that I never requested that anyone do anything illegal. I stated that I was here asking for information. My only "error" was my assumption that parents of minors had more rights than they apparently do, even in the face of a tragedy.
I came to this board specifically because it said "ethical" and I knew the knowledge base was here. You have answered all my questions and then some.
However, I would like to state that the treatment I received here is inexcusable. I am an honest and ethical and definitely a law abiding citizen. I ask that this community reconsider how assumptions are made and perhaps practice some consideration and manners toward others.
I thank those who were kind enough to take steps to do the right thing in having this thread reopened as a small act of justice towards me. Much appreciated.
No Member that I recall in this thread mistreated you by any stretch of the imagination.
More to the point, you were clearly notified by Ethical Members alike in this thread that breaching an account not belonging to you personally is what is termed as BlackHat activity, Unethical, and any other variance of words to describe what is defined as such.
None of which involves Ethical being a switch that is activated or deactivated based upon what is convenient or inconvenient.
Ethical is a full time choice by which all here choose to abide by.
Not something that is dependent upon your definition of convenience.
Furthermore, this thread was reopened after both Community Managers conferred on the subject and came to the same conclusion...that conclusion being that requesting information doesn't necessitate the need to exploit an account not belonging to you directly.
Thus, since you're here for "information", "information" will be freely given, but it will not result in the exploiting of an account that belongs to another, no matter what the story line reads and no matter other information currently being with held until an in depth perusing of the facts has been fully verified.
Needless to state, that conclusion draws nigh.
RE: I am here because I need information - Linuxephus™ - 08-06-2013
@Terri
I've been speaking with LoneDevil on Skype.
According to a screenshot he's provided, and despite what I believe to still be blatant contradictions, 1 piece of clear evidence of your identity does check out as confirmed in your favor.
That still doesn't explain why you have an IP being routed thru a server directly located northeast of Wichita, Kansas with your location being in Texas thru AT&T.
That doesn't explain discrepancies listed in Post #19.
More so to the point, BlackHat activities as far as the exploitation of an account not belonging directly to the requesting individual is a big Negative, in addition to the explanation[s] above by me and other Members accordingly.
On to the heart of the matter regarding your identity: I've vehemently maintained privately with several other Staff Members that you are not whom you state yourself to be. I'll openly post that here because it's not very hard to have a participating entity to make that post for you via Facebook.
However, the post was made nonetheless, and I personally don't intend on wasting personal resources to confirm or deny your identity in the affirmative or negative.
If what you speak is truth, and nothing but the truth, then this should prove as more understandable as necessitating certain precautions being inherently needed as a default behavior to avoid the very nonsense you were thought to be guilty of and as such, truth is defined by one's actions. Thus were I you, I would walk fearlessly in that very truth without a second's hesitation.
And the most important note of all: I, like LoneDevil am a highly regarded Member of the Community, as the Majority here are.
Yet none can be held as guilty for any offense save I Alone as rarely am I wrong in spotting such hooliganry in regards to deceit.
As such, I apologize as by LoneDevil's own testimony I was wrong and I am wrong in this matter.
If it makes you feel any better should you be offended, by all means, take a self portrait with the message, "Don't be a dick Linuxephus." and wear it proudly as and freely as your avatar here.
What say you?
I also recall stating to LoneDevil I'd "bet my position as a Community Manager that I'm right, and if not, I'll take a voluntary demotion back to Super Moderator."
I'll defer to my counter part to decide that swiftly.
Sometimes being wrong carries a hefty price.
RE: I am here because I need information - LoneDevil - 08-06-2013
(08-06-2013, 03:35 AM)Linuxephus™ Wrote: @TerriHis words may sound confusing, but this is his way of apologizing.
I've been speaking with LoneDevil on Skype.
According to a screenshot he's provided, and despite what I believe to still be blatant contradictions, 1 piece of clear evidence of your identity does check out as confirmed in your favor.
That still doesn't explain why you have an IP being routed thru a server directly located northeast of Wichita, Kansas with your location being in Texas thru AT&T.
That doesn't explain discrepancies listed in Post #19.
More so to the point, BlackHat activities as far as the exploitation of an account not belonging directly to the requesting individual is a big Negative, in addition to the explanation[s] above by me and other Members accordingly.
On to the heart of the matter regarding your identity: I've vehemently maintained privately with several other Staff Members that you are not whom you state yourself to be. I'll openly post that here because it's not very hard to have a participating entity to make that post for you via Facebook.
However, the post was made nonetheless, and I personally don't intend on wasting personal resources to confirm or deny your identity in the affirmative or negative.
If what you speak is truth, and nothing but the truth, then this should prove as more understandable as necessitating certain precautions being inherently needed as a default behavior to avoid the very nonsense you were thought to be guilty of and as such, truth is defined by one's actions. Thus were I you, I would walk fearlessly in that very truth without a second's hesitation.
And the most important note of all: I, like LoneDevil am a highly regarded Member of the Community, as the Majority here are.
Yet none can be held as guilty for any offense save I Alone as rarely am I wrong in spotting such hooliganry in regards to deceit.
As such, I apologize as by LoneDevil's own testimony I was wrong and I am wrong in this matter.
If it makes you feel any better should you be offended, by all means, take a self portrait with the message, "Don't be a dick Linuxephus." and wear it proudly as and freely as your avatar here.
What say you?
I also recall stating to LoneDevil I'd "bet my position as a Community Manager that I'm right, and if not, I'll take a voluntary demotion back to Super Moderator."
I'll defer to my counter part to decide that swiftly.
Sometimes being wrong carries a hefty price.
RE: I am here because I need information - Terri - 08-06-2013
Apology, I get it.
As to your perceived contradiction of his being on a field trip with no shoes, shirt, money, car, etc...
he was taken on a swimming trip with a group of boys and the leader wasn't watching them as he should. He was in swimming clothes. No body has been recovered after an extensive search, no body has turned up later, and no one has come forward to say he was seen either in the water in trouble, nor out. Three months have passed and he hasn't come home. He is a teenager.
I am not making any request whatsoever for help with any account. I should care less about what a bunch of strangers think of me, but since posts on the internet are definitive and everlasting, I don't like my credibility to be destroyed. Thanks.
Lone Devil I think has taken a little of a personal interest in reading about the case so he will find that my posts were all completely accurate.
Prayers for safe return appreciated as God knows for whom it is you pray.
RE: I am here because I need information - Linuxephus™ - 08-06-2013
(08-06-2013, 05:14 AM)Terri Wrote: Apology, I get it.
As to your perceived contradiction of his being on a field trip with no shoes, shirt, money, car, etc...
he was taken on a swimming trip with a group of boys and the leader wasn't watching them as he should. He was in swimming clothes. No body has been recovered after an extensive search, no body has turned up later, and no one has come forward to say he was seen either in the water in trouble, nor out. Three months have passed and he hasn't come home. He is a teenager.
I am not making any request whatsoever for help with any account. I should care less about what a bunch of strangers think of me, but since posts on the internet are definitive and everlasting, I don't like my credibility to be destroyed. Thanks.
Lone Devil I think has taken a little of a personal interest in reading about the case so he will find that my posts were all completely accurate.
Prayers for safe return appreciated as God knows for whom it is you pray.
Yet it is you who came to these very "strangers" for "help" that at first came as an account exploitation request.
And I won't bother pointing you back to your own Post #10, on Page 1 in regards to a "perceived contradiction" made by your own words.
And to be completely honest, you should really pay heed to reading between the lines when it comes to being quoted with your own words.
I'm honest by nature.
But I never hesitate to do what is necessary when it comes to the Community and the Members who make up this Community, and you my friend have long since been treading on thin ice.
Tread carefully.
Your next step might be the very step you find yourself falling thru.
And you still haven't learned from the past 2 encounters months ago, have you?
P.S.-Indeed, you should be Very Thankfull to LoneDevil and Chmod for taking the time to investigate the facts for what they are.
