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RE: Suicide - Silvinex - 12-29-2013
(12-29-2013, 07:46 AM)Singularity Wrote: Since when is logic a living thing?
Last time I checked this was logics definition
log·ic
ˈläjik/Submit
noun
1.
reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity.
Now both sides of any debate have logic.
Their are pros and cons, if you feel that suicide is wrong based on the pros and cons you see, that is fine.
But based on what I see, suicide should not be an issue with anybody.
We should be living our lives based on ourselves as individual, not based on what others are doing.
and you cant really debate that kind of thing.
Now if you show me one scientific piece of evidence of why it is bad I will re-evaluate my opinion on the subject,
but if we continued this topic we would get no where because this is opinion,
there is no scientific or empirical evidence.
Well even then. It isnt about whether your life is bullshit or not.
If someone has a perfect life and they are happy and fulfilling every desire,
I love life and I am positive, but having no life just seems better at times.
Like why am I wasting my time here? Just to experience sadness, happiness,
hunger, ecstasy? What is the point if I can just end it right now.
Dont get me wrong I wouldnt commit suicide for thousands of years,
but I dont see anything wrong with people that do.
Some religious beliefs contradict what you believe about suicide.
RE: Suicide - Singularity - 12-29-2013
(12-29-2013, 08:00 AM)Vip Wrote: Some religious beliefs contradict what you believe about suicide.
Luckily I am not religious
RE: Suicide - Silvinex - 12-29-2013
(12-29-2013, 08:00 AM)Singularity Wrote: Luckily I am not religious
The problem there is that there are others who are religious. Which makes them believe that suicide is bad or a sin.
RE: Suicide - Singularity - 12-29-2013
(12-29-2013, 07:59 AM)Cann!bal Wrote: I was using personification, silly. It's a literary device, not a logical fallacy.
Perhaps we should, however, this isn't an independent issue. We're the most social creatures on the planet. We must include others into the equation; to not would be erroneous.
This debate is a matter of fact, not opinion. It's wrong to be immoral, that's a verifiable truth, a fact. It's immoral to commit suicide. Hence, that's verifiable truth, a fact. Hence, suicide is wrong.
We may be humans, but I see us equal with animals.
Define moral and immoral and then tell me what you think is moral and immoral. I will most likely disagree with you.
I do not follow trends and values created by society.
RE: Suicide - Silvinex - 12-29-2013
(12-29-2013, 08:04 AM)Singularity Wrote: We may be humans, but I see us equal with animals.
Define moral and immoral and then tell me what you think is moral and immoral. I will most likely disagree with you.
I do not follow trends and values created by society.
That puts you in a minority. Most people do follow trends and values created by society.
RE: Suicide - Singularity - 12-29-2013
(12-29-2013, 08:03 AM)Vip Wrote: The problem there is that there are others who are religious. Which makes them believe that suicide is bad or a sin.
First we must start at the root of the belief.
Religion then society.
And if they want to believe that because some book told them too okay.
Ignorance is bliss.
(12-29-2013, 08:06 AM)Vip Wrote: That puts you in a minority. Most people do follow trends and values created by society.
And your point?
It doesnt make majority correct.
Majority of the world are Christians.
Values and beliefs always change.
RE: Suicide - Silvinex - 12-29-2013
(12-29-2013, 08:08 AM)Singularity Wrote: First we must start at the root of the belief.
Religion then society.
And if they want to believe that because some book told them too okay.
Ignorance is bliss.
And your point?
It doesnt make majority correct.
Majority of the world are Christians.
Values and beliefs always change.
My point is that if the majority of the world follow trends and values created by society then that ends up being that the majority of the world believe that suicide is immoral.
RE: Suicide - Singularity - 12-29-2013
(12-29-2013, 08:15 AM)Vip Wrote: My point is that if the majority of the world follow trends and values created by society then that ends up being that the majority of the world believe that suicide is immoral.
You are correct. lol
I still dont see your point.
RE: Suicide - Cann!bal - 12-29-2013
(12-29-2013, 08:04 AM)Singularity Wrote: We may be humans, but I see us equal with animals.
Define moral and immoral and then tell me what you think is moral and immoral. I will most likely disagree with you.
I do not follow trends and values created by society.
Homosapiens are animals. However, we are not equals socially: for there's a very diverse social atmosphere in comparison to other animals. We're at the vertex of that social atmosphere. Therefore, it is fallacious to set us equals to animals socially. Henceforth, you're wrong.
Moral: Consists of consideration, empathy, justice, rightness, just
Immoral: Consists of inconsideration, lack of empathy, injustice, wrongness, unjust
RE: Suicide - Silvinex - 12-29-2013
(12-29-2013, 08:21 AM)Singularity Wrote: You are correct. lol
I still dont see your point.
Some people with depression contemplate suicide, but because the majority of people that follow the trends and values of society or because of that persons religious beliefs they might back out on the thought of suicide.