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RE: The perception of reason. - Fallen - 12-24-2013

(12-24-2013, 07:23 AM)ABC Wrote: Here, you want a definition?

Real:

1.Being or occurring in fact or actuality; having verifiable existence.
2. True and actual; not imaginary, alleged, or ideal.

Circular.

What is "actuality"? What is fact? What is verifiable?

What is "true" and "actual"?

What is imaginary?

Ad infinitum.

Dictionaries are not your god right now.


RE: The perception of reason. - Feat - 12-24-2013

(12-24-2013, 07:27 AM)Fallen Wrote: Circular.

What is "actuality"? What is fact? What is verifiable?

What is "true" and "actual"?

What is imaginary?

Ad infinitum.

Dictionaries are not your god right now.

I never said they were my "God" nor will I ever. And all those words except imaginary have one thing in common, they can all be proven. Imaginary means to be made up.

Need any more information while we're here?


RE: The perception of reason. - Fallen - 12-24-2013

(12-24-2013, 07:31 AM)ABC Wrote: I never said they were my "God" nor will I ever. And all those words except imaginary have one thing in common, they can all be proven. Imaginary means to be made up.

Need any more information while we're here?

Verily!

What can be "proven"? How does one "prove" something to be unequivocally "real"?

What does "made up" mean?


RE: The perception of reason. - Feat - 12-24-2013

(12-24-2013, 07:35 AM)Fallen Wrote: Verily!

What can be "proven"? How does one "prove" something to be unequivocally "real"?

What does "made up" mean?

You prove something to be real by finding this thing called evidence. When something is made up it means that it is something that is imagined or not real.


RE: The perception of reason. - Leader - 12-24-2013

Things do not exist for what we would consider as a reason. Sometimes things do not have a 'human reason'. We think that all things must have a reason that involves the question of 'Why?' In reality, 'Why?' isn't the correct question to ask in certain circumstances, because there may not be an answer. The real question that we should be asking is 'How?'


RE: The perception of reason. - Fallen - 12-24-2013

(12-24-2013, 07:50 AM)Leader Wrote: Things do not exist for what we would consider as a reason. Sometimes things do not have a 'human reason'. We think that all things must have a reason that involves the question of 'Why?' In reality, 'Why?' isn't the correct question to ask in certain circumstances, because there may not be an answer. The real question that we should be asking is 'How?'

Those two are both commonly posed questions.

In light of this thread, your statement may or may not be applicable.


RE: The perception of reason. - Grin - 12-24-2013

ABC and Leader, I'm going to warn you guys and tell you that the user Fallen doesn't actually know how to have a discussion and will simply keep asking questions to make it seem like everything is subjective.


RE: The perception of reason. - Fallen - 12-24-2013

(12-24-2013, 08:03 PM)Gin Wrote: ABC and Leader, I'm going to warn you guys and tell you that the user Fallen doesn't actually know how to have a discussion and will simply keep asking questions to make it seem like everything is subjective.

Prove reality as an objective state of being to me.


RE: The perception of reason. - Grin - 01-08-2014

(12-24-2013, 09:00 PM)Fallen Wrote: Prove reality as an objective state of being to me.

http://www.geek-central.gen.nz/peeves/objective_reality.html


RE: The perception of reason. - Fallen - 01-08-2014

(01-08-2014, 11:54 AM)Gin Wrote: http://www.geek-central.gen.nz/peeves/objective_reality.html

That doesn't prove reality to me. It proves the nature of reality that someone seems to have, but it doesn't objectively hold unequivocal arguments in a way that I would be convinced that one exists.