(06-22-2019, 11:27 AM)Leviathan Wrote: Well I would get one but I can't seem to find one that works with iOS & Android so yeah I'll wait for that aswell

(06-22-2019, 08:19 AM)Jiggly Wrote:

(06-17-2019, 03:18 PM)zorrophreak Wrote:

(06-16-2019, 10:07 AM)Jiggly Wrote: It's not something that's been done on a large scale, so we don't yet know the impact both in day to day life and from a medical standpoint.

Correct, there are more people with the procedure done than you would imagine, but we don't have truly widespread adoption and research. Day to day, it does not affect me in any way, and the only change in lifestyle is the new RFID/NFC keycard in my hand, and the same goes for most others who have adopted these chips.

From a medical standpoint, there is a viable cause for concern, but it isn't something that can be widely tested in the medical world right now which is why so many smaller groups like Grindhouse Wetware, Dangerous Things, Cyberise, and Lattice Labs are performing the research and making the devices available to independent researchers. We're practically giving medical firms early stage testing in order to make it easy to kickstart their research. It has a proven track record in domestic animals such as dogs and cats, and the biocompatible glass coating (Schott 8625 "bioglass") is made for use in both humans and domestic animals, and has been proven for that purpose, which means that as long as the bioglass capsule is sealed correctly and not compromised in any way, it should not reject aside from poor implantation procedures.

(06-16-2019, 10:07 AM)Jiggly Wrote: I could easily see chips being something of a norm, but I could also see why they may never catch on. Security and safety are two very good arguments against it.

More advanced chips are being developed by the big names in bioimplants (Cyberise and Dangerous Things) with some of the smaller groups coming close behind. The VivoKey chip developed by Dangerous Things is capable of performing advanced cryptographic functions much like that in the EMV card systems. It allows you to perform contactless payments, while avoiding exposing the secret keys directly, as this chip would. Because of this, the mData style chip like I have is not capable of performing contactless payments, but it has the underlying technology to do so.

I certainly think it's viable. And advances like this are rarely done with en masse. Plenty of trials and case studies can contribute to a pool of information which can inform developers and researches until we are at a point where they are viable en masse. However, my concerns weren't so much that it's possible, or that it wouldn't one day perfectly safe from a medical standpoint. It's more the way in which people will view them. For example, there are many medical procedures that I could get now which are an implant of some kind or another, but choose not to, simply because I find the idea unsettling. I think it would take some time to get chipping to a point where it's a norm.

I feel like this topic could lead to larger more philosophical conversation - Human augmentation, what's next? xD

(06-22-2019, 05:57 PM)zorrophreak Wrote:

(06-22-2019, 11:27 AM)Leviathan Wrote: Well I would get one but I can't seem to find one that works with iOS & Android so yeah I'll wait for that aswell

The following chips (which are all identical chips from different manufacturers) should all be compatible both with Android and iPhone being that they all run on the NXP Mifare Ultralight platform. I know for a fact that my chip (the cData chip) is compatible with both Android and iPhone having tested it myself.

Cyberise (MultipassNFC - $69.99): https://cyberise.me/multipassme/22-multipass-nfc.html
DangerousThings (xNT - $69.99): https://dangerousthings.com/product/xnt/
Lattice Labs (cData - $49.99): https://latticelabs.org/store.html#!/cData/p/132356543/category=0

(07-28-2019, 10:35 AM)papiswazy Wrote: Hello no, whats the point of getting a microchip installed, unless youre a dog that disappears a lot and people wanna know your location. Unless you get something special in return why get chipped?

(07-29-2019, 02:51 AM)zorrophreak Wrote:

(07-28-2019, 10:35 AM)papiswazy Wrote: Hello no, whats the point of getting a microchip installed, unless youre a dog that disappears a lot and people wanna know your location. Unless you get something special in return why get chipped?

Well, if your dog disappears and they're chipped then it's up to someone else to find them, you can't track someone or something by their chip, only read data off of those chips and, in the case of pets, contact the owner.

As for the point, it lets me key into my house, unlock my car, and I can carry around business cards and stuff. It's not the most functional, but I enjoy it and get use out of it.

(07-29-2019, 11:50 AM)Huffson Wrote: There's no episode of Black Mirror that would prove that this dumbass action would not lead to a disaster.