(10-23-2017, 05:53 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote:

(10-23-2017, 05:51 PM)Mystique Wrote:

(10-23-2017, 05:47 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote: Yeah. I started this company when my non compete from another company expired (spoiler). I figured since they didn't want to listen to me about how they could improve their (not updated since 1999) software and get more business (but rather they fired me for helping them), I'd just write it myself and charge half of what they do.

Spoiler:

company I worked for: Advanced Toolware LLC (company doing business as Tools4Ever, a dutch company)
their only competitor at the time: Identity Automation (based in Texas)

Seems quite intelligent of you, they lost one of their best assets and then that asset turns against them. Proves that smaller people should have a say in a company. All ideas could help improve a company.

Oh I was more than just a tiny person at that company. They hired me when I was 19, I was the youngest person they'd even interviewed. Beyond that they wanted to pay me $24,000 for a salary. I sent probably 15 emails that just said

Quote:no

during salary negotiation. They refused to go a dime over $36,000, which I thought was good back then, oh boy was I wrong. With this company I reel in $181,000, and I still haven't even started selling that software yet.

(10-23-2017, 05:54 PM)Mystique Wrote:

(10-23-2017, 05:53 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote:

(10-23-2017, 05:51 PM)Mystique Wrote: Seems quite intelligent of you, they lost one of their best assets and then that asset turns against them. Proves that smaller people should have a say in a company. All ideas could help improve a company.

Oh I was more than just a tiny person at that company. They hired me when I was 19, I was the youngest person they'd even interviewed. Beyond that they wanted to pay me $24,000 for a salary. I sent probably 15 emails that just said

Quote:no

during salary negotiation. They refused to go a dime over $36,000, which I thought was good back then, oh boy was I wrong. With this company I reel in $181,000, and I still haven't even started selling that software yet.

That's extremely low for what you would have been doing. Yah they tried to f you over.

Spoiler:

(10-23-2017, 05:57 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote:

(10-23-2017, 05:54 PM)Mystique Wrote:

(10-23-2017, 05:53 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote: Oh I was more than just a tiny person at that company. They hired me when I was 19, I was the youngest person they'd even interviewed. Beyond that they wanted to pay me $24,000 for a salary. I sent probably 15 emails that just said
during salary negotiation. They refused to go a dime over $36,000, which I thought was good back then, oh boy was I wrong. With this company I reel in $181,000, and I still haven't even started selling that software yet.

That's extremely low for what you would have been doing. Yah they tried to f you over.

What I was doing really wasn't that much. The software they used was in 2 parts: a dense core and some made up drag and drop scripting language. Here's a screenshot I found on the internet:

Spoiler:

(10-23-2017, 05:59 PM)Mystique Wrote:

(10-23-2017, 05:57 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote:

(10-23-2017, 05:54 PM)Mystique Wrote: That's extremely low for what you would have been doing. Yah they tried to f you over.

What I was doing really wasn't that much. The software they used was in 2 parts: a dense core and some made up drag and drop scripting language. Here's a screenshot I found on the internet:

Spoiler:

Ah alright. Yah I see.

(10-23-2017, 06:02 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote:

(10-23-2017, 05:59 PM)Mystique Wrote:

(10-23-2017, 05:57 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote: What I was doing really wasn't that much. The software they used was in 2 parts: a dense core and some made up drag and drop scripting language. Here's a screenshot I found on the internet:

Spoiler:

Ah alright. Yah I see.

Yeah. But with how modern programming languages have developed, they could have rewritten their entire thing in PowerShell (which I did in the beginning, took about 70 lines, ran 3x as fast as theirs), or write a core in C# and then make a 15 line program for each new client (which is what I did for the final product, ran 20x as fast as theirs).

(10-23-2017, 06:05 PM)Mystique Wrote:

(10-23-2017, 06:02 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote:

(10-23-2017, 05:59 PM)Mystique Wrote: Ah alright. Yah I see.

Yeah. But with how modern programming languages have developed, they could have rewritten their entire thing in PowerShell (which I did in the beginning, took about 70 lines, ran 3x as fast as theirs), or write a core in C# and then make a 15 line program for each new client (which is what I did for the final product, ran 20x as fast as theirs).

I'm pretty sure companies like taking the easy way when it comes to many things.

(10-23-2017, 06:06 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote:

(10-23-2017, 06:05 PM)Mystique Wrote:

(10-23-2017, 06:02 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote: Yeah. But with how modern programming languages have developed, they could have rewritten their entire thing in PowerShell (which I did in the beginning, took about 70 lines, ran 3x as fast as theirs), or write a core in C# and then make a 15 line program for each new client (which is what I did for the final product, ran 20x as fast as theirs).

I'm pretty sure companies like taking the easy way when it comes to many things.

But the easy way was literally just listening to me and taking the software I wrote for them, for free, and on my own time. Instead they fired me for deviating from the norm too much and writing custom software (they have a no custom software policy)

(10-23-2017, 06:07 PM)Mystique Wrote:

(10-23-2017, 06:06 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote:

(10-23-2017, 06:05 PM)Mystique Wrote: I'm pretty sure companies like taking the easy way when it comes to many things.

But the easy way was literally just listening to me and taking the software I wrote for them, for free, and on my own time. Instead they fired me for deviating from the norm too much and writing custom software (they have a no custom software policy)

That is quite sad.

(10-23-2017, 06:09 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote:

(10-23-2017, 06:07 PM)Mystique Wrote:

(10-23-2017, 06:06 PM)phyrrus9 Wrote: But the easy way was literally just listening to me and taking the software I wrote for them, for free, and on my own time. Instead they fired me for deviating from the norm too much and writing custom software (they have a no custom software policy)

That is quite sad.

I'm not beat up about it. Because they fired me I ended up being in the upper class for a brief period, and still remain in the high end of middle.