(08-14-2016, 05:34 PM)Cosvo Wrote: In the past months I've had this in the back of my head.  I have been thinking and thinking and thinking. I don't know if anyone here have ever heard, but for about 4 months ago RazorCrypt (A crypter which mainly was sold over HF) was taken down.  The owner Razor was involved in credit card fraud among other ventures, and was basically raided at his spot. His computer with all the account information about the customers and such was taken from him by the police, and he is now under arrest, as well as many of the customers as well. Razor's actions caused everything to collaps. All of the customers were raided too I think. Everyone that had bought RazorCrypt had to give their computer's to the police, which is how many of the customers is jailed today worldwide.
I was JUST about to buy RazorCrypt one day. It was CHEAP and vouched! I was almost done filling in the account information when I realized I was $1 too short... I was broken and angry since I didn't have enough money for it..
So the time went and that happened. It got me to realize that I would probably have been jailed today with what the police would've found on my computer.

So today I started a new chapter.
I backed up many important and most likely illegal files to an USB I have, and restarted my computer COMPETELY. I was also a customer of KFC watermelon (the owner of Luminosity Link, the rat). Don't get me wrong. He's a great guy. I trust him with all I have, but being jailed in the future is not worth it. I got him to delete my license and remove me from his servers COMPLETELY. Even though I spent $40 bucks on his tool and I spent 4 months making these money.. Being 15 year old and being jailed for this in 5 years is again not worth it.

Now I'm here. Nothing on my computer and an important USB.
I can't say I regret.
I'm glad that I've done that.

- Cosvo

(08-14-2016, 08:39 PM)The_Joker Wrote:

(08-14-2016, 05:34 PM)Cosvo Wrote: In the past months I've had this in the back of my head.  I have been thinking and thinking and thinking. I don't know if anyone here have ever heard, but for about 4 months ago RazorCrypt (A crypter which mainly was sold over HF) was taken down.  The owner Razor was involved in credit card fraud among other ventures, and was basically raided at his spot. His computer with all the account information about the customers and such was taken from him by the police, and he is now under arrest, as well as many of the customers as well. Razor's actions caused everything to collaps. All of the customers were raided too I think. Everyone that had bought RazorCrypt had to give their computer's to the police, which is how many of the customers is jailed today worldwide.
I was JUST about to buy RazorCrypt one day. It was CHEAP and vouched! I was almost done filling in the account information when I realized I was $1 too short... I was broken and angry since I didn't have enough money for it..
So the time went and that happened. It got me to realize that I would probably have been jailed today with what the police would've found on my computer.

So today I started a new chapter.
I backed up many important and most likely illegal files to an USB I have, and restarted my computer COMPETELY. I was also a customer of KFC watermelon (the owner of Luminosity Link, the rat). Don't get me wrong. He's a great guy. I trust him with all I have, but being jailed in the future is not worth it. I got him to delete my license and remove me from his servers COMPLETELY. Even though I spent $40 bucks on his tool and I spent 4 months making these money.. Being 15 year old and being jailed for this in 5 years is again not worth it.

Now I'm here. Nothing on my computer and an important USB.
I can't say I regret.
I'm glad that I've done that.

- Cosvo

Hey man. A few years ago I was pretty much like you. I was really into "hacking" back then, and enjoyed the rush of power I'd get by bypassing, breaking, or destroying someone else's property. But its really not worth it. Back then I did a lot of stupid shit, and looking back now I'm incredibly grateful nothing came back and bit me in the ass. The malicious blackhat dumbfuckery so many kids are involved with these days is incredibly dangerous, and can have really consequences. Think you're anonymous or secure? Think again. Even disregarding data persistence and physical security threats, I guarantee you have, at some point, transmitted dangerous information in the clear. That info's still out there somewhere, and it can come back to haunt you.

But don't let me scare you away if hacking is where you passions lie. Information security is a huge field, and in my brief brushes with it I've discovered how much fun it can be for people like myself. So go ahead, get yourself a raspberry pi or something else than can run linux and go wild. Setup a webserver and see how it responds to DoS. Get SET (social engineering toolkit) up and running and learn how phishing works. If you're interested in viruses, trojans or RATS, learn c++ (or C or java or c#...) and try to build one. If you're interested in physical security, download ophcrack or KonBoot and see how easy it is to break into a encrypted computer. Think about all these flaws, and how you can fix them. Watch DEFCON videos and learn how pros deal with this in practice.

tldr: The world of "hacking" is huge, and awesome. Go wild, have fun, but don't put your future at risk by doing stupid illegal shit.

(08-14-2016, 08:37 PM)Cosvo Wrote:

(08-14-2016, 08:26 PM)God Wrote: Can you explain to me why the customers of RazorCrypt were raided? How is it within their rights to raid everyone who legitimately bought a legal software unless I'm missing something?

I believe only the poeple that had made payments through their credit cards got raided. But again, english isn't my first language so with raided I mean that the police came to their house  an took their computer as well as they told them that the owner of razorcrypt had logged their credit card details. With "raided" I don't mean that a swat team bust in their house haha .. But I think that that happened to Razor.

Sorry for my english

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(08-14-2016, 08:23 PM)Tarew Wrote:

(08-14-2016, 08:15 PM)Cosvo Wrote: Well it is better removing the evicence before it is too late

You say you removed the evidence, but how did you 'remove it'? If you tell me that you put it in your Windows Recycling Bin and then emptied your recycling bin and think that all the data that you put in there is gone you're an idiot.

I thought reinstalling windows would erase all my files that weren't connected to servers/stored on the internet Do you mind adding me on skype and helping me remove this? My skype is Saney 8

(08-14-2016, 09:03 PM)roger_smith Wrote:

(08-14-2016, 08:37 PM)Cosvo Wrote:

(08-14-2016, 08:26 PM)God Wrote: Can you explain to me why the customers of RazorCrypt were raided? How is it within their rights to raid everyone who legitimately bought a legal software unless I'm missing something?

I believe only the poeple that had made payments through their credit cards got raided. But again, english isn't my first language so with raided I mean that the police came to their house  an took their computer as well as they told them that the owner of razorcrypt had logged their credit card details. With "raided" I don't mean that a swat team bust in their house haha .. But I think that that happened to Razor.

Sorry for my english

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(08-14-2016, 08:23 PM)Tarew Wrote: You say you removed the evidence, but how did you 'remove it'? If you tell me that you put it in your Windows Recycling Bin and then emptied your recycling bin and think that all the data that you put in there is gone you're an idiot.

I thought reinstalling windows would erase all my files that weren't connected to servers/stored on the internet Do you mind adding me on skype and helping me remove this? My skype is Saney 8

Again, look up the term "Data Remanence" and tell me how secure you feel

(08-14-2016, 09:23 PM)roger_smith Wrote: and so what did you learn?

(08-14-2016, 09:26 PM)Cosvo Wrote:

(08-14-2016, 09:23 PM)roger_smith Wrote: and so what did you learn?

I've learned that even though I think my shit is deleted they are not lol :/

Thanks Roger.S

(08-14-2016, 09:29 PM)Archfiend Wrote:

(08-14-2016, 09:26 PM)Cosvo Wrote:

(08-14-2016, 09:23 PM)roger_smith Wrote: and so what did you learn?

I've learned that even though I think my shit is deleted they are not lol :/

Thanks Roger.S

Quick. Microwave your HDD.

(08-14-2016, 09:19 PM)Cosvo Wrote:

(08-14-2016, 09:03 PM)roger_smith Wrote:

(08-14-2016, 08:37 PM)Cosvo Wrote: I believe only the poeple that had made payments through their credit cards got raided. But again, english isn't my first language so with raided I mean that the police came to their house  an took their computer as well as they told them that the owner of razorcrypt had logged their credit card details. With "raided" I don't mean that a swat team bust in their house haha .. But I think that that happened to Razor.

Sorry for my english

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I thought reinstalling windows would erase all my files that weren't connected to servers/stored on the internet Do you mind adding me on skype and helping me remove this? My skype is Saney 8

Again, look up the term "Data Remanence" and tell me how secure you feel

Oh my:/

(08-14-2016, 09:26 PM)Cosvo Wrote:

(08-14-2016, 09:23 PM)roger_smith Wrote: and so what did you learn?

I've learned that even though I think my shit is deleted they are not lol :/

Thanks Roger.S

(08-14-2016, 10:07 PM)roger_smith Wrote:

(08-14-2016, 09:19 PM)Cosvo Wrote:

(08-14-2016, 09:03 PM)roger_smith Wrote: Again, look up the term "Data Remanence" and tell me how secure you feel

Oh my:/

(08-14-2016, 09:26 PM)Cosvo Wrote:

(08-14-2016, 09:23 PM)roger_smith Wrote: and so what did you learn?

I've learned that even though I think my shit is deleted they are not lol :/

Thanks Roger.S

For  more detailed explanation, see below:

There are a number of common terms associated data and its destruction. Some of those terms include "Erasing, Clearing, Purging and Sanitization".

Erasing is literally just that, you use the "delete" option in your operating system. This would be something like emptying your recycle bin in Windows. All you are doing is removing the pointer information to the location of that file on the hard drive. This can be easily recovered.  

Clearing can also be known as overwriting. This is generally what people are doing when they "write zeros" or other disk preparation methods. While more difficult, it is still possible to retrieve data from devices treated in such a fashion via data recovery labs. Also, this method would NOT touch any sectors of a hard drive that had data in them, but were later marked as bad sectors. Also, solid state media can not be reliably prepared using this method due to the way solid state works.

Purging data is a more intense form is clearing. Basically it's performing clearing functions multiple times.

and finally

Sanitization is a comprehensive process that includes removing or destroying all non-volatile memory (storage media), removing any CD/DVD media, purging and destroying storage media (ssd, hdd, etc).

Contrary to popular belief, degaussing a hard disk drive is NOT a form of sanitization alone. While degaussing CAN leave a disk in what appears to be a sanitized state, often times the degaussing process only damages the electronic components of the hard drive, but leaves the magnetic storage minimally affected. A sophisticated attacker could remove the platters from the damaged unit, or replace the damaged electronics and recover the data.

The only ~100% assurable way of destroying data irrecoverably, is complete physical destruction of the storage media via shredding, incineration, or chemical process.