(05-18-2016, 03:47 AM)Adorapuff Wrote: How the fuck is climate change that big of an issue to you... there has been so much poor behavior in the climate change believers in the scientific community, and there is not nearly enough consensus by scientists to make political decisions about it. If you bring up the 99% of scientists believe in global warming I might actually rip my hair out.

(05-18-2016, 08:31 AM)Eclipse Wrote: Make your mind up. Is there not enough consensus or do 99% of scientists believe that humans are having a severe impact on the planet?

(05-18-2016, 01:32 PM)Adorapuff Wrote: I'm saying that statistic is severely skewed, and mis-cited. It came from a study that was 100% legit however, when studies are used in media, they are often intentionally misinterpreted like the 99% of scientists figure that is so often heard.

(05-18-2016, 06:13 AM)GateK33per Wrote: 1. I prefer to keep an open mind about religion, but most people I met and have come across believe in religion or a higher power to help with life itself, it makes them also feel that they being watched over and also if death is to come their way that there is another place, a better place. I once met a guy who was an Atheist and he made fun and mocked religious people for what they believe in which was just wrong. However I don't believe religion should to be forced upon by anyone especially what happened in the days of the crusades "We fight for God" I'm sure if God had a voice he would punish all those fuckers because they killing and taking a life. On the topic of religion I love the verse "Though I walk through the valley of shadow and death I will fear no evil" that just gives me courage to do anything, lol

2. From the outside world Hillary is dangerous, Trump is crazy and doesn't think about what he says, Bernie is old but he kind of plays the Robin Hood type of role. This is what is looks like from the outside and how the media portrays them unfortunately.

3. A skin deforming plague should hit the world and turn all our skin colours to purple so we can't see each other by skin colour and people can stop using race and the misfortunes of their past. Shit would be so much better without the race factor.

(05-18-2016, 08:31 AM)Eclipse Wrote: Make your mind up. Is there not enough consensus or do 99% of scientists believe that humans are having a severe impact on the planet?

(05-18-2016, 05:08 PM)Eclipse Wrote: Wheather or not that figure is completely accurate, it's completely ignorant to deny climate change. There is a consensus amongst scientists, no matter what Fox News says.

(05-18-2016, 05:08 PM)Eclipse Wrote: Wheather or not that figure is completely accurate, it's completely ignorant to deny climate change. There is a consensus amongst scientists, no matter what Fox News says.

(05-18-2016, 05:25 AM)Mw3modderman Wrote: 2. Being a Bernie fan is absolutely ridiculous, even on climate change grounds. Bernie is a socialist which indicates his open alliance with a suicidal economic system that can only exist when a government censors it's civilians to prevent debate or if the civilians are too ignorant to look at modern socialists countries which have seen major economic decline, as well as historical socialist countries which either still exist as horror shows today or collapsed. Socialism is not just illogical, it is immoral. It is immoral to economically starve your population and decimate your country.

(05-18-2016, 05:08 PM)Eclipse Wrote: Wheather or not that figure is completely accurate, it's completely ignorant to deny climate change. There is a consensus amongst scientists, no matter what Fox News says.

(05-18-2016, 03:17 AM)Oni Wrote: Disagree with 1. Religion can be the basis for morals just as much as it can create wars. Nothing wrong with having it, as it's a social construct and almost all previous civilizations had them. If I want to worship crabs, why should I be stopped?

Mostly agree with you on 2, although I'm less authoritarian and more libertarian (coincidentally hate Sanders supporters, as half my professors were). Had to pretend to be a dirty socialist in a couple essays.

Heavily agree with you on 3. Some people are taking the movements a bit too far, to be honest. Highlighting the differences in races is how you create more racism. Victim culture is actually becoming a thing now, and it's quite sad.

(05-18-2016, 04:14 AM)meow Wrote: I never said religion can't be the basis for morals. However, don't go and cherry pick moral lessons from your religion and say "ah yes, this is what I believe in. Religion is such a great basis for morals." If you're going to stress that religion can be a basis for morals, you better damn well take in all of the "moral" lessons from the religion you're a follower of instead of pretending to be a follower and only believing in the parts that appeal to you. Since you're the one making that point, allow me to use your own religion against you. Yes, Christianity contains great moral lessons, however the amount of immoral lessons that Christians strongly try to ignore completely towers the morally-upright lessons. I will gladly elaborate on this if you'd like to discuss the matter further. Also, you making that argument to combat mine is implying that atheists can't have morals just because they're not theistic.. which is just silly.

(05-18-2016, 07:45 PM)Adorapuff Wrote: Not sure if anyone taught you, but your supposed to argue with facts not insults.. calling me ignorant because you disagree with me and making assumptions about where I get my news from. Check out http://www.nationalreview.com/article/425232/climate-change-no-its-not-97-percent-consensus-ian-tuttle
If you don't want to read all of it, scroll down to the paragraph that starts with "Surely the most suspicious"
If you want to have a debate about the issue I will be happy to argue on the merits of our arguments, but if any of the following replies are ad-hominem there won't be any point to put time and effort into an argument where the opposition has to resort to name calling instead of logic and facts.