(12-28-2015, 02:23 AM)Raw Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:13 AM)sundawn Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:10 AM)Raw Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:06 AM)sundawn Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:03 AM)Nathy Wrote: I mean, they should. But only if they've been there for a certain amount of time. But also, that their rules aren't full Muslim.

Such as laws where if someone commits adultery you get stoned to death?

A law like this would never pass in Australia. Muslims are not a country, therefore the rules are religious. I assume Australia has religious freedom, however stuff such as that would get people thrown in jail even if they claim "it was a religous practice". Sure, Muslims in Australia should be allowed to celebrate their holidays etc, but laws such as stoning in e.g Syria or Iran or wherever will obviously not get accepted in a country like Australia. 

I'm a bit tired, sorry if I'm mixing words up lol.

amen, but they want to change everything because what we do offends them. I heard something the other day that they wanted to change the fact of having Christmas in the streets etc you can only have it in your homes? Because it was offending other religions. My school nearly banned ham over 3 muslims that were in my school and its a catholic school?

Alright listen up. I live in Sweden, and I'm not sure what the outside world hears about us anymore. Our tiny little country consisting of about 9 million people are taking in the most immigrants per capita in the whole Europe. Sure, rape, murder, other crime rates have increased, that's obvious. The thing is it's actually the radical feminist whiteknights that go out of the way to get stuff like christmas banned. Even if you "heard from someone" that 'the muslims want this and want that', odds are that it's a twisted story. Here in Sweden for example, on Christmas Eve at 3'o'clock we have a tv program which runs for about an hour, and it's been the exact same one for way over like what, 20 years? However in the recent years more and more stuff are dissapearing from this program. They no longer have black dolls in it, they have had to remove parts of the program because of it "being racist". Sure, this is where most people go out of their way and blame the muslims and immigrants, "fucking immigrants just fucking us over all the time", they say. But here's the sad truth. Some 24 year old woman who loves taking big black cock has decided that this is racist. I have a few immigrant friends, and all of them think it's fucking retarded that we should have to change our tv for them, besides, no one actually finds it offending. Also, I'm 100% pure bred Swedish, so don't think I'm a muslim defending muslims, I'm just saying that there are usually more sides to a story than the one you heard

EDIT: Again, I am very tired so excuse me if I mix the words up.

(12-28-2015, 02:26 AM)Geek Wrote: Yes I agree. Everyone should be given equal rights. No matter what religion they follow.

(12-28-2015, 02:27 AM)sundawn Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:26 AM)Geek Wrote: Yes I agree. Everyone should be given equal rights. No matter what religion they follow.

So them passing their beliefs and way of living, 3rd world country passing what they think is the right way to live? That's stupid.

(12-28-2015, 02:27 AM)sundawn Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:23 AM)Raw Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:13 AM)sundawn Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:10 AM)Raw Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:06 AM)sundawn Wrote: Such as laws where if someone commits adultery you get stoned to death?

A law like this would never pass in Australia. Muslims are not a country, therefore the rules are religious. I assume Australia has religious freedom, however stuff such as that would get people thrown in jail even if they claim "it was a religous practice". Sure, Muslims in Australia should be allowed to celebrate their holidays etc, but laws such as stoning in e.g Syria or Iran or wherever will obviously not get accepted in a country like Australia. 

I'm a bit tired, sorry if I'm mixing words up lol.

amen, but they want to change everything because what we do offends them. I heard something the other day that they wanted to change the fact of having Christmas in the streets etc you can only have it in your homes? Because it was offending other religions. My school nearly banned ham over 3 muslims that were in my school and its a catholic school?

Alright listen up. I live in Sweden, and I'm not sure what the outside world hears about us anymore. Our tiny little country consisting of about 9 million people are taking in the most immigrants per capita in the whole Europe. Sure, rape, murder, other crime rates have increased, that's obvious. The thing is it's actually the radical feminist whiteknights that go out of the way to get stuff like christmas banned. Even if you "heard from someone" that 'the muslims want this and want that', odds are that it's a twisted story. Here in Sweden for example, on Christmas Eve at 3'o'clock we have a tv program which runs for about an hour, and it's been the exact same one for way over like what, 20 years? However in the recent years more and more stuff are dissapearing from this program. They no longer have black dolls in it, they have had to remove parts of the program because of it "being racist". Sure, this is where most people go out of their way and blame the muslims and immigrants, "fucking immigrants just fucking us over all the time", they say. But here's the sad truth. Some 24 year old woman who loves taking big black cock has decided that this is racist. I have a few immigrant friends, and all of them think it's fucking retarded that we should have to change our tv for them, besides, no one actually finds it offending. Also, I'm 100% pure bred Swedish, so don't think I'm a muslim defending muslims, I'm just saying that there are usually more sides to a story than the one you heard

EDIT: Again, I am very tired so excuse me if I mix the words up.

The banning of them has was the reason of the muslim family in the school, I don't know about the other  thing, but it was their choice to go to a CATHOLIC school and think its not right that they have ham sandwiches etc. I found that fucking stupid, but if they were to get into the political system and their votes got more votes because they populate a lot(i'm not being racist) but most families I see here that are Muslim have 4+ children,  I know it has to be agreed on both parties but what says it does go through?

(12-28-2015, 02:30 AM)Geek Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:27 AM)sundawn Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:26 AM)Geek Wrote: Yes I agree. Everyone should be given equal rights. No matter what religion they follow.

So them passing their beliefs and way of living, 3rd world country passing what they think is the right way to live? That's stupid.

I don't find a reason for people to live by the beliefs of others. It's their own wish if they have to follow it or not. Correct me if I am wrong here.

(12-28-2015, 02:32 AM)Raw Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:27 AM)sundawn Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:23 AM)Raw Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:13 AM)sundawn Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:10 AM)Raw Wrote: A law like this would never pass in Australia. Muslims are not a country, therefore the rules are religious. I assume Australia has religious freedom, however stuff such as that would get people thrown in jail even if they claim "it was a religous practice". Sure, Muslims in Australia should be allowed to celebrate their holidays etc, but laws such as stoning in e.g Syria or Iran or wherever will obviously not get accepted in a country like Australia. 

I'm a bit tired, sorry if I'm mixing words up lol.

amen, but they want to change everything because what we do offends them. I heard something the other day that they wanted to change the fact of having Christmas in the streets etc you can only have it in your homes? Because it was offending other religions. My school nearly banned ham over 3 muslims that were in my school and its a catholic school?

Alright listen up. I live in Sweden, and I'm not sure what the outside world hears about us anymore. Our tiny little country consisting of about 9 million people are taking in the most immigrants per capita in the whole Europe. Sure, rape, murder, other crime rates have increased, that's obvious. The thing is it's actually the radical feminist whiteknights that go out of the way to get stuff like christmas banned. Even if you "heard from someone" that 'the muslims want this and want that', odds are that it's a twisted story. Here in Sweden for example, on Christmas Eve at 3'o'clock we have a tv program which runs for about an hour, and it's been the exact same one for way over like what, 20 years? However in the recent years more and more stuff are dissapearing from this program. They no longer have black dolls in it, they have had to remove parts of the program because of it "being racist". Sure, this is where most people go out of their way and blame the muslims and immigrants, "fucking immigrants just fucking us over all the time", they say. But here's the sad truth. Some 24 year old woman who loves taking big black cock has decided that this is racist. I have a few immigrant friends, and all of them think it's fucking retarded that we should have to change our tv for them, besides, no one actually finds it offending. Also, I'm 100% pure bred Swedish, so don't think I'm a muslim defending muslims, I'm just saying that there are usually more sides to a story than the one you heard

EDIT: Again, I am very tired so excuse me if I mix the words up.

The banning of them has was the reason of the muslim family in the school, I don't know about the other  thing, but it was their choice to go to a CATHOLIC school and think its not right that they have ham sandwiches etc. I found that fucking stupid, but if they were to get into the political system and their votes got more votes because they populate a lot(i'm not being racist) but most families I see here that are Muslim have 4+ children,  I know it has to be agreed on both parties but what says it does go through?

I don't fully understand what you mean but here's my answer if I understood it correctly: I still think they should be allowed to vote. 
In just a generation or two, they will most likely have integrated into the Australian "system" enough to have common sense and let common sense go before religion. Sure, things may go bad right now when the biggest streams of immigration is going on, but HOPEFULLY that'll end soon and the muslims staying there will simply integrate and stop whining. I don't know though, so yeah.

(12-28-2015, 02:32 AM)sundawn Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:30 AM)Geek Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:27 AM)sundawn Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:26 AM)Geek Wrote: Yes I agree. Everyone should be given equal rights. No matter what religion they follow.

So them passing their beliefs and way of living, 3rd world country passing what they think is the right way to live? That's stupid.

I don't find a reason for people to live by the beliefs of others. It's their own wish if they have to follow it or not. Correct me if I am wrong here.

But they want to change things that have been in Australia for a long time because it "offends" their culture? Honestly if it offends them why don't they go back? It might be shit over there but why come here and want to change something that offends their culture? That is what fucks me off the most, is the fact that they want to come here and change shit, but most of what they want changed has made their country horrible?

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(12-28-2015, 02:32 AM)Raw Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:27 AM)sundawn Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:23 AM)Raw Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:13 AM)sundawn Wrote: amen, but they want to change everything because what we do offends them. I heard something the other day that they wanted to change the fact of having Christmas in the streets etc you can only have it in your homes? Because it was offending other religions. My school nearly banned ham over 3 muslims that were in my school and its a catholic school?

Alright listen up. I live in Sweden, and I'm not sure what the outside world hears about us anymore. Our tiny little country consisting of about 9 million people are taking in the most immigrants per capita in the whole Europe. Sure, rape, murder, other crime rates have increased, that's obvious. The thing is it's actually the radical feminist whiteknights that go out of the way to get stuff like christmas banned. Even if you "heard from someone" that 'the muslims want this and want that', odds are that it's a twisted story. Here in Sweden for example, on Christmas Eve at 3'o'clock we have a tv program which runs for about an hour, and it's been the exact same one for way over like what, 20 years? However in the recent years more and more stuff are dissapearing from this program. They no longer have black dolls in it, they have had to remove parts of the program because of it "being racist". Sure, this is where most people go out of their way and blame the muslims and immigrants, "fucking immigrants just fucking us over all the time", they say. But here's the sad truth. Some 24 year old woman who loves taking big black cock has decided that this is racist. I have a few immigrant friends, and all of them think it's fucking retarded that we should have to change our tv for them, besides, no one actually finds it offending. Also, I'm 100% pure bred Swedish, so don't think I'm a muslim defending muslims, I'm just saying that there are usually more sides to a story than the one you heard

EDIT: Again, I am very tired so excuse me if I mix the words up.

The banning of them has was the reason of the muslim family in the school, I don't know about the other  thing, but it was their choice to go to a CATHOLIC school and think its not right that they have ham sandwiches etc. I found that fucking stupid, but if they were to get into the political system and their votes got more votes because they populate a lot(i'm not being racist) but most families I see here that are Muslim have 4+ children,  I know it has to be agreed on both parties but what says it does go through?

I don't fully understand what you mean but here's my answer if I understood it correctly: I still think they should be allowed to vote. 
In just a generation or two, they will most likely have integrated into the Australian "system" enough to have common sense and let common sense go before religion. Sure, things may go bad right now when the biggest streams of immigration is going on, but HOPEFULLY that'll end soon and the muslims staying there will simply integrate and stop whining. I don't know though, so yeah.

Now, I didn't mean NOT VOTE, I 100% would allow them to vote, but for them to pass their own laws shouldn't be allowed.

(12-28-2015, 02:32 AM)sundawn Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:30 AM)Geek Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:27 AM)sundawn Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:26 AM)Geek Wrote: Yes I agree. Everyone should be given equal rights. No matter what religion they follow.

So them passing their beliefs and way of living, 3rd world country passing what they think is the right way to live? That's stupid.

I don't find a reason for people to live by the beliefs of others. It's their own wish if they have to follow it or not. Correct me if I am wrong here.

But they want to change things that have been in Australia for a long time because it "offends" their culture? Honestly if it offends them why don't they go back? It might be shit over there but why come here and want to change something that offends their culture? That is what fucks me off the most, is the fact that they want to come here and change shit, but most of what they want changed has made their country horrible?

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(12-28-2015, 02:32 AM)Raw Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:27 AM)sundawn Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:23 AM)Raw Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:13 AM)sundawn Wrote: amen, but they want to change everything because what we do offends them. I heard something the other day that they wanted to change the fact of having Christmas in the streets etc you can only have it in your homes? Because it was offending other religions. My school nearly banned ham over 3 muslims that were in my school and its a catholic school?

Alright listen up. I live in Sweden, and I'm not sure what the outside world hears about us anymore. Our tiny little country consisting of about 9 million people are taking in the most immigrants per capita in the whole Europe. Sure, rape, murder, other crime rates have increased, that's obvious. The thing is it's actually the radical feminist whiteknights that go out of the way to get stuff like christmas banned. Even if you "heard from someone" that 'the muslims want this and want that', odds are that it's a twisted story. Here in Sweden for example, on Christmas Eve at 3'o'clock we have a tv program which runs for about an hour, and it's been the exact same one for way over like what, 20 years? However in the recent years more and more stuff are dissapearing from this program. They no longer have black dolls in it, they have had to remove parts of the program because of it "being racist". Sure, this is where most people go out of their way and blame the muslims and immigrants, "fucking immigrants just fucking us over all the time", they say. But here's the sad truth. Some 24 year old woman who loves taking big black cock has decided that this is racist. I have a few immigrant friends, and all of them think it's fucking retarded that we should have to change our tv for them, besides, no one actually finds it offending. Also, I'm 100% pure bred Swedish, so don't think I'm a muslim defending muslims, I'm just saying that there are usually more sides to a story than the one you heard

EDIT: Again, I am very tired so excuse me if I mix the words up.

The banning of them has was the reason of the muslim family in the school, I don't know about the other  thing, but it was their choice to go to a CATHOLIC school and think its not right that they have ham sandwiches etc. I found that fucking stupid, but if they were to get into the political system and their votes got more votes because they populate a lot(i'm not being racist) but most families I see here that are Muslim have 4+ children,  I know it has to be agreed on both parties but what says it does go through?

I don't fully understand what you mean but here's my answer if I understood it correctly: I still think they should be allowed to vote. 
In just a generation or two, they will most likely have integrated into the Australian "system" enough to have common sense and let common sense go before religion. Sure, things may go bad right now when the biggest streams of immigration is going on, but HOPEFULLY that'll end soon and the muslims staying there will simply integrate and stop whining. I don't know though, so yeah.

Now, I didn't mean NOT VOTE, I 100% would allow them to vote, but for them to pass their own laws shouldn't be allowed.

(12-28-2015, 10:54 AM)Paradigm Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:32 AM)sundawn Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:30 AM)Geek Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:27 AM)sundawn Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:26 AM)Geek Wrote: Yes I agree. Everyone should be given equal rights. No matter what religion they follow.

So them passing their beliefs and way of living, 3rd world country passing what they think is the right way to live? That's stupid.

I don't find a reason for people to live by the beliefs of others. It's their own wish if they have to follow it or not. Correct me if I am wrong here.

But they want to change things that have been in Australia for a long time because it "offends" their culture? Honestly if it offends them why don't they go back? It might be shit over there but why come here and want to change something that offends their culture? That is what fucks me off the most, is the fact that they want to come here and change shit, but most of what they want changed has made their country horrible?

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(12-28-2015, 02:32 AM)Raw Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:27 AM)sundawn Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:23 AM)Raw Wrote: Alright listen up. I live in Sweden, and I'm not sure what the outside world hears about us anymore. Our tiny little country consisting of about 9 million people are taking in the most immigrants per capita in the whole Europe. Sure, rape, murder, other crime rates have increased, that's obvious. The thing is it's actually the radical feminist whiteknights that go out of the way to get stuff like christmas banned. Even if you "heard from someone" that 'the muslims want this and want that', odds are that it's a twisted story. Here in Sweden for example, on Christmas Eve at 3'o'clock we have a tv program which runs for about an hour, and it's been the exact same one for way over like what, 20 years? However in the recent years more and more stuff are dissapearing from this program. They no longer have black dolls in it, they have had to remove parts of the program because of it "being racist". Sure, this is where most people go out of their way and blame the muslims and immigrants, "fucking immigrants just fucking us over all the time", they say. But here's the sad truth. Some 24 year old woman who loves taking big black cock has decided that this is racist. I have a few immigrant friends, and all of them think it's fucking retarded that we should have to change our tv for them, besides, no one actually finds it offending. Also, I'm 100% pure bred Swedish, so don't think I'm a muslim defending muslims, I'm just saying that there are usually more sides to a story than the one you heard

EDIT: Again, I am very tired so excuse me if I mix the words up.

The banning of them has was the reason of the muslim family in the school, I don't know about the other  thing, but it was their choice to go to a CATHOLIC school and think its not right that they have ham sandwiches etc. I found that fucking stupid, but if they were to get into the political system and their votes got more votes because they populate a lot(i'm not being racist) but most families I see here that are Muslim have 4+ children,  I know it has to be agreed on both parties but what says it does go through?

I don't fully understand what you mean but here's my answer if I understood it correctly: I still think they should be allowed to vote. 
In just a generation or two, they will most likely have integrated into the Australian "system" enough to have common sense and let common sense go before religion. Sure, things may go bad right now when the biggest streams of immigration is going on, but HOPEFULLY that'll end soon and the muslims staying there will simply integrate and stop whining. I don't know though, so yeah.

Now, I didn't mean NOT VOTE, I 100% would allow them to vote, but for them to pass their own laws shouldn't be allowed.

If it's a majority vote than why not? I think everyone has the chance to vote and if the majority vote wins then the law should be passed.

(12-28-2015, 01:13 PM)sundawn Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 10:54 AM)Paradigm Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:32 AM)sundawn Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:30 AM)Geek Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:27 AM)sundawn Wrote: So them passing their beliefs and way of living, 3rd world country passing what they think is the right way to live? That's stupid.

I don't find a reason for people to live by the beliefs of others. It's their own wish if they have to follow it or not. Correct me if I am wrong here.

But they want to change things that have been in Australia for a long time because it "offends" their culture? Honestly if it offends them why don't they go back? It might be shit over there but why come here and want to change something that offends their culture? That is what fucks me off the most, is the fact that they want to come here and change shit, but most of what they want changed has made their country horrible?

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(12-28-2015, 02:32 AM)Raw Wrote:

(12-28-2015, 02:27 AM)sundawn Wrote: The banning of them has was the reason of the muslim family in the school, I don't know about the other  thing, but it was their choice to go to a CATHOLIC school and think its not right that they have ham sandwiches etc. I found that fucking stupid, but if they were to get into the political system and their votes got more votes because they populate a lot(i'm not being racist) but most families I see here that are Muslim have 4+ children,  I know it has to be agreed on both parties but what says it does go through?

I don't fully understand what you mean but here's my answer if I understood it correctly: I still think they should be allowed to vote. 
In just a generation or two, they will most likely have integrated into the Australian "system" enough to have common sense and let common sense go before religion. Sure, things may go bad right now when the biggest streams of immigration is going on, but HOPEFULLY that'll end soon and the muslims staying there will simply integrate and stop whining. I don't know though, so yeah.

Now, I didn't mean NOT VOTE, I 100% would allow them to vote, but for them to pass their own laws shouldn't be allowed.

If it's a majority vote than why not? I think everyone has the chance to vote and if the majority vote wins then the law should be passed.

No you see thats where it's all wrong their laws broke their country.