(07-17-2015, 08:22 PM)Eclipse Wrote: You know, there's this thing called the Chinese Room Argument. Basically, imagine a room with no windows and a locked door. There's a letter box in the door; that's about it. Inside the room there's a Chinese woman with a pen and paper. She also has a book that translates English to Chinese. So every now and then, a letter comes through the letterbox with some English on it. "Hello, how are you?", it might say. She opens her book and she matches up the squiggles and figures out which squiggles to draw to reply to the question. "I'm fine. And how are you?", she writes. She manages to conduct a conversation without knowing a word of English or even knowing what she said. All of her intelligence, her conscience came from some rules in a book.

We don't understand consciousness, so we cannot recreate it. We can make another room with a more advanced book, but we cannot create true AI.

At least not yet.

(07-19-2015, 02:32 PM)Death Rattle Wrote: Interesting read:
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/chinese-room/

It's not exactly as you put it, but close enough.

(07-17-2015, 08:22 PM)Eclipse Wrote: You know, there's this thing called the Chinese Room Argument. Basically, imagine a room with no windows and a locked door. There's a letter box in the door; that's about it. Inside the room there's a Chinese woman with a pen and paper. She also has a book that translates English to Chinese. So every now and then, a letter comes through the letterbox with some English on it. "Hello, how are you?", it might say. She opens her book and she matches up the squiggles and figures out which squiggles to draw to reply to the question. "I'm fine. And how are you?", she writes. She manages to conduct a conversation without knowing a word of English or even knowing what she said. All of her intelligence, her conscience came from some rules in a book.

We don't understand consciousness, so we cannot recreate it. We can make another room with a more advanced book, but we cannot create true AI.

At least not yet.

(07-19-2015, 02:39 PM)Lux Wrote: But, we can imitate consciousness.

When one reads enough books, they'll be able to author their own.

When we get to a stage where a machine can take apart these theoretical books, and what goes in to creating them, and re-create it's own original content, we have imitated consciousness.

(07-19-2015, 02:56 PM)Eclipse Wrote: Imitating conciousness isn't AI, as much as we want it to be.

(07-19-2015, 03:08 PM)Oni Wrote: AI does stand for artificial intelligence.

(07-19-2015, 03:44 PM)Eclipse Wrote: Artificail means man-made, not fake.

(07-19-2015, 07:11 PM)Crypt Wrote: I disagree. If it's not made by nature itself, it's probably not good enough to be called "real". Synthetic diamonds and diamonds created by nature are a good example.