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RE: California, the first state to require vaccine mandates in public & private school - mothered - 10-05-2021
(10-05-2021, 12:52 PM)Shionari Wrote: Same! My second dose was on the 27th of September. Hopefully no side effects and whatnot in the future, but so far it's looking good!If there were side effects, you would've experienced It by now.
Good work with being fully vaccinated.
RE: California, the first state to require vaccine mandates in public & private school - Spooky - 10-05-2021
(10-05-2021, 11:01 AM)Shionari Wrote:Name a mandatory vaccine that you can still get the effects from.(10-05-2021, 07:23 AM)ghostboy Wrote:I'm curious why it would be a big deal though. Perhaps this will come out as ignorant on my part, but I would think that mandating the vaccine for schools and universities is just a natural consequence of the pandemic, given how widespread and severe Covid has become. Or is this last part not as true as I believe it to be?(10-05-2021, 05:59 AM)Shionari Wrote: I'm surprised to see that it's only California. Where I live, the vaccine has been made mandatory in educational institutions throughout the whole country.It becoming mandatory for K-12 is a big deal. The mandate starting in California doesn't really surprise me I guess.
If you take the chicken pox vaccine, you can't get chicken pox. If you take a tetanus shot, you can't become ill from tetanus, rust etc.
But if you get the Covid-19 vaccine.. you can still get covid at an increased rate? Not to mention the side effects.
So an experimental vaccine made in china is mandatory? With a survival chance of 99.7%?
Yes. That is why it's surprising it is made mandatory for the people most likely to survive covid, with the highest chance of not showing symptoms in the first place.
RE: California, the first state to require vaccine mandates in public & private school - Shionari - 10-06-2021
(10-05-2021, 09:48 PM)ghostboy Wrote:I can certainly understand the logic in all that. I might've argued that minimal protection through the vaccine is still better than none at all, but I wasn't aware that there are cases where you get Covid at an increased rate after the vaccine. If it's true, then that's just messed up.(10-05-2021, 11:01 AM)Shionari Wrote:Name a mandatory vaccine that you can still get the effects from.(10-05-2021, 07:23 AM)ghostboy Wrote: It becoming mandatory for K-12 is a big deal. The mandate starting in California doesn't really surprise me I guess.I'm curious why it would be a big deal though. Perhaps this will come out as ignorant on my part, but I would think that mandating the vaccine for schools and universities is just a natural consequence of the pandemic, given how widespread and severe Covid has become. Or is this last part not as true as I believe it to be?
If you take the chicken pox vaccine, you can't get chicken pox. If you take a tetanus shot, you can't become ill from tetanus, rust etc.
But if you get the Covid-19 vaccine.. you can still get covid at an increased rate? Not to mention the side effects.
So an experimental vaccine made in china is mandatory? With a survival chance of 99.7%?
(10-05-2021, 09:48 PM)ghostboy Wrote:I would like to add something about this, though. Assuming that the vaccine does its job (at least, to some degree) in providing protection against covid, I doubt that the ultimate goal behind making it mandatory in K-12 is about the children themselves. A worst-case scenario wouldn't be that a child merely catches covid, since, as you said, chances are very high that they will survive it anyway. Instead, it would be that the child catches covid and transmits it to parents/family members/other people. Special emphasis on parents/grandparents due to the age factor. Older people tend to have a weaker immune system, and are more likely to have some form of chronic disease, all of which can aggravate the effects of covid. So I do believe the goal behind making it mandatory for schools is not just to protect the children themselves, but also potential victims resulting from said children getting sick.(10-05-2021, 11:01 AM)Shionari Wrote:Yes. That is why it's surprising it is made mandatory for the people most likely to survive covid, with the highest chance of not showing symptoms in the first place.(10-05-2021, 07:23 AM)ghostboy Wrote: It becoming mandatory for K-12 is a big deal. The mandate starting in California doesn't really surprise me I guess.I'm curious why it would be a big deal though. Perhaps this will come out as ignorant on my part, but I would think that mandating the vaccine for schools and universities is just a natural consequence of the pandemic, given how widespread and severe Covid has become. Or is this last part not as true as I believe it to be?
RE: California, the first state to require vaccine mandates in public & private school - mothered - 10-06-2021
(10-05-2021, 09:48 PM)ghostboy Wrote: If you take the chicken pox vaccine, you can't get chicken pox.Nothing Is guaranteed 100%, ever.
You can still get chickenpox after (for example) being vaccinated with Varivax and ProQuad, but the symptomatology may be mild (and In some cases the same) compared to those who're unvaccinated.
RE: California, the first state to require vaccine mandates in public & private school - blvcknebula - 10-06-2021
THe vaccine is the entry into the new world order, point blank period. that what it is