(12-30-2020, 06:07 PM)Twenty-Two Wrote: Is it not peculiar that the international media organizations that remonstrated to the COVID-19 virus being called the Chinese virus or the Wuhan virus have now nicknamed the incipient strain the "UK mutant virus"? So, geographically labeling the pristine virus is racist but not its variant?

(12-31-2020, 09:04 AM)fsociety Wrote:

(12-30-2020, 01:35 PM)Jiggly Wrote:

(12-30-2020, 12:35 PM)fsociety Wrote: main cause is the flight if country don't close than its 100% sure all world will face another pandemic situation.

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i am also happy to see that indian doctor , hospital department able to cure corona people on time infected ratio is high but they all are cured ... very less death .. where USA people getting die and die as i know USA is far more hygiene and smart in technology than why USA getting worse now these days...USA days are bad now days from corona to cyber attack...

I don't think the USA is worse. The number of people infected compared to how many die isn't high compared to other nations. For example, the CONFIRMED cases (not including the predictions of people who are infected and haven't been tested) are at just shy of 20 million. That makes a mortality rate of about 1.7% of all who are infected (realistically it is much lower than that as we are not including any cases that haven't been reported). Meanwhile, if you compare the mortality rate for Brazil's confirmed and reported, positive cases, their mortality rate is at over 2.5%. France's rate would be 2.48%, and the UK would be 3%.

Long story short: I'm saying that the USA isn't doing as badly as the media makes out, and it entirely depends on how you INTERPRET statistics. The statistics above suggest the UK is doing almost literally twice as bad as the US, in mortality rates. However, these statistics are affected by how many people are tested and when. We could argue that too many people are getting infected in the USA, but there isn't evidence to support that more people are dying in the USA, compared to other nations.

(12-30-2020, 06:07 PM)Twenty-Two Wrote: Is it not peculiar that the international media organizations that remonstrated to the COVID-19 virus being called the Chinese virus or the Wuhan virus have now nicknamed the incipient strain the "UK mutant virus"? So, geographically labelling the pristine virus is racist but not its variant?

(12-31-2020, 09:40 AM)Jiggly Wrote:

(12-31-2020, 09:04 AM)fsociety Wrote:

(12-30-2020, 01:35 PM)Jiggly Wrote: I don't think the USA is worse. The number of people infected compared to how many die isn't high compared to other nations. For example, the CONFIRMED cases (not including the predictions of people who are infected and haven't been tested) are at just shy of 20 million. That makes a mortality rate of about 1.7% of all who are infected (realistically it is much lower than that as we are not including any cases that haven't been reported). Meanwhile, if you compare the mortality rate for Brazil's confirmed and reported, positive cases, their mortality rate is at over 2.5%. France's rate would be 2.48%, and the UK would be 3%.

Long story short: I'm saying that the USA isn't doing as badly as the media makes out, and it entirely depends on how you INTERPRET statistics. The statistics above suggest the UK is doing almost literally twice as bad as the US, in mortality rates. However, these statistics are affected by how many people are tested and when. We could argue that too many people are getting infected in the USA, but there isn't evidence to support that more people are dying in the USA, compared to other nations.

     

Literally the exact data I was working from. That's not a high mortality rate compared to the European nations. In fact, India has a much better mortality rate. The problem in the US is the proportionate number of infections. So, if you look at the total cases per million people in the population column, you can see that is much higher than other nations. Whereas India's infections per 1m pop is actually doing ok at the moment. I suspect this may chance with the new, more infectious strains coming out.

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(12-30-2020, 06:07 PM)Twenty-Two Wrote: Is it not peculiar that the international media organizations that remonstrated to the COVID-19 virus being called the Chinese virus or the Wuhan virus have now nicknamed the incipient strain the "UK mutant virus"? So, geographically labelling the pristine virus is racist but not its variant?

That's actually hilarious.  However, I'm not especially offended by it. If they gave the new strain another name, that would confuse things. My continental European family have had big mouths and opinions about the British for years, this will be no different xD

(12-31-2020, 10:49 AM)fsociety Wrote:

(12-31-2020, 09:40 AM)Jiggly Wrote:

(12-31-2020, 09:04 AM)fsociety Wrote:

     

Literally the exact data I was working from. That's not a high mortality rate compared to the European nations. In fact, India has a much better mortality rate. The problem in the US is the proportionate number of infections. So, if you look at the total cases per million people in the population column, you can see that is much higher than other nations. Whereas India's infections per 1m pop is actually doing ok at the moment. I suspect this may chance with the new, more infectious strains coming out.

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(12-30-2020, 06:07 PM)Twenty-Two Wrote: Is it not peculiar that the international media organizations that remonstrated to the COVID-19 virus being called the Chinese virus or the Wuhan virus have now nicknamed the incipient strain the "UK mutant virus"? So, geographically labelling the pristine virus is racist but not its variant?

That's actually hilarious.  However, I'm not especially offended by it. If they gave the new strain another name, that would confuse things. My continental European family have had big mouths and opinions about the British for years, this will be no different xD

i notice in starting time of covid that trump lately put lockdown or people dont take it seriously... in india those who were roaming or caught on road , police trash there ass... that was funny , even those got trash who were making titok video.... police didn't spare...anyone in serious lockdown...

(12-31-2020, 10:49 AM)fsociety Wrote:

(12-31-2020, 09:40 AM)Jiggly Wrote:

(12-31-2020, 09:04 AM)fsociety Wrote:

     

Literally the exact data I was working from. That's not a high mortality rate compared to the European nations. In fact, India has a much better mortality rate. The problem in the US is the proportionate number of infections. So, if you look at the total cases per million people in the population column, you can see that is much higher than other nations. Whereas India's infections per 1m pop is actually doing ok at the moment. I suspect this may chance with the new, more infectious strains coming out.

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(12-30-2020, 06:07 PM)Twenty-Two Wrote: Is it not peculiar that the international media organizations that remonstrated to the COVID-19 virus being called the Chinese virus or the Wuhan virus have now nicknamed the incipient strain the "UK mutant virus"? So, geographically labelling the pristine virus is racist but not its variant?

That's actually hilarious.  However, I'm not especially offended by it. If they gave the new strain another name, that would confuse things. My continental European family have had big mouths and opinions about the British for years, this will be no different xD

i notice in starting time of covid that trump lately put lockdown or people dont take it seriously... in india those who were roaming or caught on road , police trash there ass... that was funny , even those got trash who were making titok video.... police didn't spare...anyone in serious lockdown...

(01-01-2021, 01:08 AM)Oni Wrote:

(12-31-2020, 10:49 AM)fsociety Wrote:

(12-31-2020, 09:40 AM)Jiggly Wrote: Literally the exact data I was working from. That's not a high mortality rate compared to the European nations. In fact, India has a much better mortality rate. The problem in the US is the proportionate number of infections. So, if you look at the total cases per million people in the population column, you can see that is much higher than other nations. Whereas India's infections per 1m pop is actually doing ok at the moment. I suspect this may chance with the new, more infectious strains coming out.

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That's actually hilarious.  However, I'm not especially offended by it. If they gave the new strain another name, that would confuse things. My continental European family have had big mouths and opinions about the British for years, this will be no different xD

i notice in starting time of covid that trump lately put lockdown or people dont take it seriously...  in india those who were roaming or caught on road , police trash there ass...     that was funny , even those got trash who were making titok video.... police didn't spare...anyone in serious lockdown...

My great uncle died last week from it, so I genuinely believe a few baton paddles is nothing. It's one thing to endanger yourself, but it's the collective "laissez faire" mentality that's the reason we're still here almost a year later.

(12-31-2020, 12:16 PM)Jiggly Wrote: If there had been an instant lockdown and harsher punishment, maybe we would see less cases there.

(01-01-2021, 06:54 AM)fsociety Wrote:

(01-01-2021, 01:08 AM)Oni Wrote:

(12-31-2020, 10:49 AM)fsociety Wrote: i notice in starting time of covid that trump lately put lockdown or people dont take it seriously...  in india those who were roaming or caught on road , police trash there ass...     that was funny , even those got trash who were making titok video.... police didn't spare...anyone in serious lockdown...

My great uncle died last week from it, so I genuinely believe a few baton paddles is nothing. It's one thing to endanger yourself, but it's the collective "laissez faire" mentality that's the reason we're still here almost a year later.

so sad , now cases in india become from 6 to 20.