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RE: Why you should worry about cheap Chinese phones and other hardware - GeorgeH - 12-15-2018

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RE: Why you should worry about cheap Chinese phones and other hardware - O9A - 12-17-2018

(12-11-2018, 04:09 AM)zorrophreak Wrote:
(12-10-2018, 09:42 AM)O9A Wrote:
(12-10-2018, 03:24 AM)zorrophreak Wrote: Despite all of this I have for a good while purchased phones from China, not for my day-to-day use, but just to experiment with. Huawei is one of my favorite mobile manufacturers and I have been using their products for a good while, despite the risks involved. However, it is always important to consider the risks involved when dealing with the Chinese. However, I'm perfectly okay with them. (I do use those devices to access SL lmao)

You USE those devices to access SL, what is wrong with you man!?!?! Your giving them all the secrets !!!

I joke, I joke.

Don't get me wrong if I have the ability to get my hands on these devices I do enjoy messing around with them just because you never know what you might uncover.

I intentionally say I don't use those devices and what happens? I mistype and say I do use them. But no I hate using mobile to access most sites, especially SL, even with Tapatalk. Lately though I've been stuck on iPhone until I can get a replacement screen for my main phone but we'll see how long that'll take.

You didn't actually mistype that was my attempt at humor, /r/whoosh


RE: Why you should worry about cheap Chinese phones and other hardware - zorrophreak - 12-18-2018

(12-17-2018, 08:29 PM)O9A Wrote:
(12-11-2018, 04:09 AM)zorrophreak Wrote:
(12-10-2018, 09:42 AM)O9A Wrote: You USE those devices to access SL, what is wrong with you man!?!?! Your giving them all the secrets !!!

I joke, I joke.

Don't get me wrong if I have the ability to get my hands on these devices I do enjoy messing around with them just because you never know what you might uncover.

I intentionally say I don't use those devices and what happens? I mistype and say I do use them. But no I hate using mobile to access most sites, especially SL, even with Tapatalk. Lately though I've been stuck on iPhone until I can get a replacement screen for my main phone but we'll see how long that'll take.

You didn't actually mistype that was my attempt at humor, /r/whoosh

Shieeeet


RE: Why you should worry about cheap Chinese phones and other hardware - mothered - 12-18-2018

Quote:Chinese companies are forced to work with their intelligence agencies and are required to have mandatory backdoors into their devices

Who's to say that other companies don't do the same? Your IPhone may contain a backdoor, and you'd never know It.

This Is only what we're aware of through public exposure.


RE: Why you should worry about cheap Chinese phones and other hardware - O9A - 12-22-2018

(12-18-2018, 03:19 AM)mothered Wrote:
Quote:Chinese companies are forced to work with their intelligence agencies and are required to have mandatory backdoors into their devices

Who's to say that other companies don't do the same? Your IPhone may contain a backdoor, and you'd never know It.

This Is only what we're aware of through public exposure.

That is a good point, even if the OS itself doesn't contain the amount of old, old vulnerabilities which have been found over the last few years have raised my suspicion to be honest, openssh, flash. Did the developers really not know about all these bugs or was it more like if it's not broken don't fix it.


RE: Why you should worry about cheap Chinese phones and other hardware - mothered - 12-22-2018

(12-22-2018, 12:35 AM)O9A Wrote:
(12-18-2018, 03:19 AM)mothered Wrote:
Quote:Chinese companies are forced to work with their intelligence agencies and are required to have mandatory backdoors into their devices

Who's to say that other companies don't do the same? Your IPhone may contain a backdoor, and you'd never know It.

This Is only what we're aware of through public exposure.

That is a good point, even if the OS itself doesn't contain the amount of old, old vulnerabilities which have been found over the last few years have raised my suspicion to be honest, openssh, flash. Did the developers really not know about all these bugs or was it more like if it's not broken don't fix it.

Quote:Did the developers really not know about all these bugs or was it more like if it's not broken don't fix it.

Surely they would've had an Inkling of the Inconsistencies.

After all, they are the developers and who'd know better of the Inner-workings of their software other than themselves.


RE: Why you should worry about cheap Chinese phones and other hardware - O9A - 12-22-2018

(12-22-2018, 03:27 AM)mothered Wrote:
(12-22-2018, 12:35 AM)O9A Wrote:
(12-18-2018, 03:19 AM)mothered Wrote: Who's to say that other companies don't do the same? Your IPhone may contain a backdoor, and you'd never know It.

This Is only what we're aware of through public exposure.

That is a good point, even if the OS itself doesn't contain the amount of old, old vulnerabilities which have been found over the last few years have raised my suspicion to be honest, openssh, flash. Did the developers really not know about all these bugs or was it more like if it's not broken don't fix it.

Quote:Did the developers really not know about all these bugs or was it more like if it's not broken don't fix it.

Surely they would've had an Inkling of the Inconsistencies.

After all, they are the developers and who'd know better of the Inner-workings of their software other than themselves.

I find it fascinating that even now security through obscurity still remains


RE: Why you should worry about cheap Chinese phones and other hardware - mothered - 12-22-2018

(12-22-2018, 03:32 AM)O9A Wrote:
(12-22-2018, 03:27 AM)mothered Wrote:
(12-22-2018, 12:35 AM)O9A Wrote: That is a good point, even if the OS itself doesn't contain the amount of old, old vulnerabilities which have been found over the last few years have raised my suspicion to be honest, openssh, flash. Did the developers really not know about all these bugs or was it more like if it's not broken don't fix it.

Quote:Did the developers really not know about all these bugs or was it more like if it's not broken don't fix it.

Surely they would've had an Inkling of the Inconsistencies.

After all, they are the developers and who'd know better of the Inner-workings of their software other than themselves.

I find it fascinating that even now security through obscurity still remains

And the disappointing part Is, It will Inevitably continue as such.

I exploit on a daily basis and upon planting backdoors, the majority remain unnoticed/undetected.


RE: Why you should worry about cheap Chinese phones and other hardware - O9A - 12-22-2018

(12-22-2018, 03:48 AM)mothered Wrote:
(12-22-2018, 03:32 AM)O9A Wrote:
(12-22-2018, 03:27 AM)mothered Wrote: Surely they would've had an Inkling of the Inconsistencies.

After all, they are the developers and who'd know better of the Inner-workings of their software other than themselves.

I find it fascinating that even now security through obscurity still remains

And the disappointing part Is, It will Inevitably continue as such.

I exploit on a daily basis and upon planting backdoors, the majority remain unnoticed/undetected.

Yes, which is still shocking I noticed something odd on my PC the other day immediately reset everything including my phone as I was very unsure of how it happened, firefox window opened with no firefox installed seemed like a legit copy of firefox made to start at boot and open a website, I didn't investigate further due to being tired and lazy but no infection since.


RE: Why you should worry about cheap Chinese phones and other hardware - mothered - 12-22-2018

(12-22-2018, 03:53 AM)O9A Wrote:
(12-22-2018, 03:48 AM)mothered Wrote:
(12-22-2018, 03:32 AM)O9A Wrote: I find it fascinating that even now security through obscurity still remains

And the disappointing part Is, It will Inevitably continue as such.

I exploit on a daily basis and upon planting backdoors, the majority remain unnoticed/undetected.

Yes, which is still shocking I noticed something odd on my PC the other day immediately reset everything including my phone as I was very unsure of how it happened, firefox window opened with no firefox installed seemed like a legit copy of firefox made to start at boot and open a website, I didn't investigate further due to being tired and lazy but no infection since.

It may well have been (and probably still Is) an Infection.

It's good practice to use a dedicated PC for sensitive account logins. For example, this post Is generated on a laptop solely used for this board and nothing else. The same applies with my PayPal and domain registrar accounts- one PC for those alone, login and logout.