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How secure is your password? - Sikom - 09-05-2017
Ok, so here is my question for you.
How secure do you think you password really is?
Do you think it is secure against bruteforce and dictionary attacks?
Do you use the password on multiple different websites?
If I ask myself I would say that currently my password safety is quite good. I think this mainly because I have a password manager, with 2FA and a really secure master password.
I guess I also could disclose that my password has special characters, numbers, big and small letters, and has a length of above 50 chars.
How secure is yours?
The password generated by the password is usually of equal or better quality than the master
RE: How secure is your password? - mothered - 09-05-2017
50 chars Is an overkill.
I could create an 8 character length password that's just as secure , whereby It contains upper case, lower case, numbers, special characters (not consistent with that of "malicious" chars used In attacks such as SQLi). It must also meet complexity requirements, whereby no 2 chars of the same type are allowed In the same sequence (no two upper case, lower case, special chars etc).
And then go one step further, whereby nothing sequential to the keypad Is allowed. Whether It be your cell phone or qwerty keyboard- horizontal, diagonal, vertical or anything following a logical order Is not permitted.
Also, depending "where" I utilize my password, the strength of the username Is of equal Importance. For example, on my forum (back-end login), the username Is dedicated to myself only and no other external source so the strength/complexity of the username Is just as Important as It's counterpart. A lot of people focus on passwords alone. When solely dedicated to the user, both forms of authentication (user:pass) must meet the same complexity.
RE: How secure is your password? - MindD4rk - 09-05-2017
Here is a good resource to check speed in which a given password can be cracked:
http://random-ize.com/how-long-to-hack-pass/
Most complex 8 character passwords can be cracked in less than 24 days using a consumer grade gear.
Best way to create a secure password is focus on its length, not necessarily the complexity. For example, an all lower case 13 character password will take 28 years to crack...
RE: How secure is your password? - Skryptec - 09-05-2017
(09-05-2017, 08:10 AM)Sikom Wrote: I guess I also could disclose that my password has special characters, numbers, big and small letters, and has a length of above 50 chars.
The thing here is, long passwords are not always the most secure passwords. Short and complex passwords are more secure in my opinion.
RE: How secure is your password? - DarkMuse - 09-05-2017
I mean it's really not difficult to make a strong password guys.
Stop using the fucking websites who will generate them for you, -- why the fuck would you trust them?
Think of a memorable phrase include punctuation and capitalization. Now take every first letter and include the punctuation in the password.
For example,
It takes 2 to tango, but 3 for a threesome.
Becomes
It2tt,b3fat.
LOOK AT THAT A SECURE PASSWORD.
Obviously using popular phrases is stupid, use something that you'll remember.
RE: How secure is your password? - Sikom - 09-05-2017
(09-05-2017, 04:14 PM)mothered Wrote: 50 chars Is an overkill.
I could create an 8 character length password that's just as secure , whereby It contains upper case, lower case, numbers, special characters (not consistent with that of "malicious" chars used In attacks such as SQLi). It must also meet complexity requirements, whereby no 2 chars of the same type are allowed In the same sequence (no two upper case, lower case, special chars etc).
And then go one step further, whereby nothing sequential to the keypad Is allowed. Whether It be your cell phone or qwerty keyboard- horizontal, diagonal, vertical or anything following a logical order Is not permitted.
Also, depending "where" I utilize my password, the strength of the username Is of equal Importance. For example, on my forum (back-end login), the username Is dedicated to myself only and no other external source so the strength/complexity of the username Is just as Important as It's counterpart. A lot of people focus on passwords alone. When solely dedicated to the user, both forms of authentication (user:pass) must meet the same complexity.
It might be overkill with over 50 chars, but that is the password that protects all my logins, thereby making it the most important.
(09-05-2017, 05:23 PM)Skryptec Wrote:(09-05-2017, 08:10 AM)Sikom Wrote: I guess I also could disclose that my password has special characters, numbers, big and small letters, and has a length of above 50 chars.
The thing here is, long passwords are not always the most secure passwords. Short and complex passwords are more secure in my opinion.
Long passwords are not always the most secure no, but if you have a long password with the main rules followed (Small letter, Big letter, Number, and Special) it will certainly be more secure with a long password vs a small one, if we look at bruteforcing.
What I think we can agree on, is that normal computers will not be able to bruteforce the password in a good amount of time. (I do not know about quantum computers) but that is not viable for most people to get.
(09-05-2017, 05:24 PM)DarkMuse Wrote: I mean it's really not difficult to make a strong password guys.
Stop using the fucking websites who will generate them for you, -- why the fuck would you trust them?
Think of a memorable phrase include punctuation and capitalization. Now take every first letter and include the punctuation in the password.
For example,
It takes 2 to tango, but 3 for a threesome.
Becomes
It2tt,b3fat.
LOOK AT THAT A SECURE PASSWORD.
Obviously using popular phrases is stupid, use something that you'll remember.
Bruteforce wise it would be better to do the long one vs the small one. I am not quite sure about dictionary attacks. But I think it would be hard to crack that sentence with a dictionary attack.
RE: How secure is your password? - mothered - 09-06-2017
(09-05-2017, 08:01 PM)Sikom Wrote: It might be overkill with over 50 chars, but that is the password that protects all my logins, thereby making it the most important.
I definitely agree a 50 char password (with the mentioned complexity) protects your account. No doubt about It.
What I meant by an overkill, Is that I can achieve the very same result ( as per my aforementioned post) with an 8 char password. Then you also have to take Into account that some websites have character limits on passwords. For example, Microsoft accounts are 16 chars, PayPal Is 20, AOL Is 16 and the list goes on.
RE: How secure is your password? - lunorian - 09-12-2017
Most are around 64 chars long but some websites limit the max password so they're shorter.
RE: How secure is your password? - Slacker - 09-12-2017
Mine is pretty secure. Like I have never had anything cracked.
RE: How secure is your password? - mothered - 09-12-2017
(09-12-2017, 05:00 AM)lunorian Wrote: but some websites limit the max password so they're shorter.
Hence my post above.
In general terms, a longer password Isn't always a stronger password. The "complexity" of the password, what's Included and how It's applied, all play a significant role In formulating a secure password.