(08-24-2015, 02:42 AM)Ayumi Wrote: If you're down you and I can setup our own irc server, instead of someone else's and jusr having a channel. I talked to Oni and he said if we get it big enough it will be official.

(08-24-2015, 02:53 AM)Ayumi Wrote: OH, I thought that was something like Rizon. Well, good luck with the IRC.

(08-24-2015, 03:07 AM)roger_smith Wrote: If you're not a n00b knob, get in the IRC

(08-25-2015, 03:12 AM)dotcppfile Wrote: Here's a nice conversation in that IRC that shows how l337 is the server owner:

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* ShebangBot (~ShebangBot@d24-150-81-84.home.cgocable.net) has joined #sl <Shebang> ooh, yay * ShebangBot has quit (Client closed connection) * ShebangBot (~ShebangBot@d24-150-81-84.home.cgocable.net) has joined #sl <Shebang> :) * ShebangBot has quit (Client closed connection) <phyrrus9> well that was fast * ShebangBot (~ShebangBot@d24-150-81-84.home.cgocable.net) has joined #sl * ShebangBot has quit (Client closed connection) * ShebangBot (~ShebangBot@d24-150-81-84.home.cgocable.net) has joined #sl <Shebang> it's not too difficult, apparently <phyrrus9> its really not.... <phyrrus9> its responding to all the PING <Shebang> Now let's see if it can do anything.. <phyrrus9> and getting the inital user mode correct thats the issue <Shebang> +say Hello! <ShebangBot> Hello! <phyrrus9> see, now I know you didn't write it yourself <Shebang> Because that was the first thing I put in? * ShebangBot has quit (Client closed connection) <phyrrus9> i mean, its possible, but I HIGHLY doubt you're that good at IRC <dotcppfile> well <dotcppfile> you can write an irc bot in python <dotcppfile> in 5 lines of codes <dotcppfile> well <phyrrus9> has anyone here actually used real IRC? <dotcppfile> that would say hello. <phyrrus9> something to say hello in a channel would look like this: <phyrrus9> NICK mybot <phyrrus9> USER mybot 8 * : test bot <phyrrus9> JOIN #SL <phyrrus9> PRIVMSG #SL : hello <phyrrus9> PART #SL <dotcppfile> in python <dotcppfile> import socket * ShebangBot (~ShebangBot@d24-150-81-84.home.cgocable.net) has joined #sl <dotcppfile> and use ircsock <phyrrus9> fuck python <dotcppfile> and you're basically done? <dotcppfile> lol <Shebang> +div 4 3 <Shebang> herp <phyrrus9> no really.....python is one of the worst languages for serverside <dotcppfile> well <phyrrus9> I refuse to install the interpreters on my servers <dotcppfile> why is that? <phyrrus9> because its insecure and useless <dotcppfile> that's a vague * ShebangBot has quit (Client closed connection) <dotcppfile> and invalid <dotcppfile> argument. <phyrrus9> not the least bit <dotcppfile> python is insecure and useless. <dotcppfile> prove it mate lol <phyrrus9> insecure: python is interpreted, it can be permutated during runtime. * ShebangBot (~ShebangBot@d24-150-81-84.home.cgocable.net) has joined #sl <dotcppfile> by who? <Shebang> +div 4 3 <dotcppfile> magicians? <dotcppfile> lol <Shebang> cmaan <Shebang> +say Fuck <ShebangBot> Fuck * ShebangBot has quit (Client closed connection) <phyrrus9> useless: it's slow, has no advantage, its interpreted (meaning it has no direct access and depends on features to be 'implemented' before they can be implemented) <dotcppfile> it's slow? <dotcppfile> did you even benchmark it? <dotcppfile> before you say so? <phyrrus9> how about this....write the fastest hello world program you can in python and send it to me...ill benchmark it against a C program <dotcppfile> well <dotcppfile> a c program is obviously better <dotcppfile> I never said it wasnt <phyrrus9> exactly <dotcppfile> but this doens't make <dotcppfile> python slow <dotcppfile> at all... <dotcppfile> comparing it to any other language <dotcppfile> except for c/c++ <phyrrus9> no, the fact that it is interpreted as JIT does <dotcppfile> it's ass kicking. <phyrrus9> any other language? BCPL, B, D, C#, Objective-C, Go (which is extremely slow compared to C but still miles ahead of python) <dotcppfile> no <dotcppfile> they're not. <dotcppfile> lol <phyrrus9> fuck man even Java is faster than python <dotcppfile> C# <dotcppfile> what? <dotcppfile> lol <dotcppfile> java is faster than python? <dotcppfile> lol <phyrrus9> C# can compile directly to object code and skip CLR <dotcppfile> did you ever use <dotcppfile> sockets in C# <dotcppfile> ? <phyrrus9> and you need to do some research on Jazelle <phyrrus9> kid, ive used more programming languages than you have years on this earth * ShebangBot (~ShebangBot@d24-150-81-84.home.cgocable.net) has joined #sl <dotcppfile> well <dotcppfile> not really <dotcppfile> kid. <dotcppfile> lol <phyrrus9> oh for fucks sake Shebang....use a temp channel....like +test <dotcppfile> you can name languages all day long <dotcppfile> no shit is gonna ever change <dotcppfile> lol <phyrrus9> actually, youre EXTREMELY wrong <phyrrus9> computer science changes by the hour <dotcppfile> your opinion mate <dotcppfile> keep it yourself. <phyrrus9> oh really? <dotcppfile> yes <dotcppfile> really. <dotcppfile> and for a guy talking about "coding 123 language of r along time" <dotcppfile> and comparing them <dotcppfile> based on speed <dotcppfile> you're bad at this <dotcppfile> lol <phyrrus9> speed? <phyrrus9> thats all you took from that? <dotcppfile> that's all you said. <phyrrus9> not JIT sucks, and scripted languages are insecure? * You have been kicked from #SL by admin (flaming (noob)) * Now talking on #SL * Topic for #SL is: Official SL IRC * Topic for #SL set by -Server- at Tue Aug 25 04:15:07 2015 <CPP> that wasn't nice. <CPP> kiddo. * admin sets ban on *!*otcppfile@80.82.64.* <CPP> oh well.

It's kind of sad how he didn't even allow me to prove my point and kicked me/banned me more than twice.
What's even worse is that he has an ego problem lol.
Saying that python is shit by comparing its speed with other languages based on "echoing hello" when there's a huge difference in speed between a language and another when it comes to different types of operations and functions is kind of dumb.
Lets not forget that you might want to talk about initial startup time, memory usage, cpu usage, performance in general etc when comparing languages.
Now, forcing an opinion an IRC chat and banning tor exit nodes lol when someone doesn't agree with what you say is a skiddy thing to do.

The reason I'm posting this is basically because I'm not joining the IRC anymore and also because I want people to know what might happen if you disagree with phyrrus9, the baws.

(08-25-2015, 03:18 AM)phyrrus9 Wrote: See, you didn't bring up those points in the IRC...You kept a circular (and flamy conversation going). As far as Tor goes, the nodes should be banned on the site, they will be banned on my end if I choose to as well. I do have ghosting set up if you really need to hide your identity.

Bans are temporary, I don't think people should be permanently banned from a server based on a conversation. It is just a way to separate parties until both have chilled. Thanks for your rant, I'm sure somebody will find it useful, but it really isn't any skin off my back. Those of us who want to use it still will, and those who don't wont.

In all reality, if you wish to have a real conversation instead of egowaring with me over a preference on language without admitting any facts, then feel free to jump on (the 10 minute bantime is up by now) and actually have a conversation.

But a little homework: look up Jazelle (or simply the BLJ instruction). It's a little fun fact that java can run at the same speed as assembly (they use the same decoder) on those processors. I couldn't believe it myself when I was told, but doing research and tests into it I found that the difference was negligable.