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Satanism and Conspiracy Theories. - Evangelist - 08-19-2013
Many times before we have seen this phenomenon into play. Most conspiracy theorists believe in the illuminati (if not all of them) it is said that the Illuminati are a very powerful and wealthy family which would control all world governments and are planning to make a world that would be under the control of “one” government called “The new world order” the family was real in the 1776’s and now their existence are merely rumors and conspiracies. The family or organization are no longer so secretive as there is a list which “exposes” the members and all of them have different lasts names which gives a clear example that the illuminati are more of an organization than an actual family.
That is all well and good but, it is rumored that the family are so powerful because it joined forces with Satan and that the family are all Satanists grasping to rule the world. They do that by advocating the true archetype of Satan which is a “Showman” supposedly they add occult symbolism to the mainstream music and media in hopes to get their Satanic message across and also adding subliminal messages to Disney and cartoon movies. Right.
Conspiracy theorists can find a subliminal message without it being there, making them severely paranoid and often leads us to think they are either stupid or retarded. Some if not most of them are. That is beside the point. Now the Illuminati was real in the 1700’s right? Now Satanism was founded on the year 1966 by Anton LaVey and the religion in no way preaches that Satan is an actual conscious deity that deserves worship, if not a symbol of individualism. The illuminati’s legacy is carried out as a missing puzzle piece. Something weird happens and somebody tries to fit the illuminati in the empty spot using little to no logic.
Now let’s study what is a fear campaign. A fear campaign is a movement to induce fear in the major population by using key strategies to oblige or force them to be on your side. For anything to have power it must have the fear of the population. Is it mere coincidence that the illuminati are Satanists? No and here is why. The dominant religion is Christianity with more than 38,000 known denominations. The biggest religion out there, now all of them have a fear and a respect towards Satanism or Satan. What happens to a Christian when you mention that you are a Satanist? He automatically responds with a back away movement or expression. Now since the world’s most dominant religion is Christianity let’s make the illuminati Satanists so people know that they are bad and they want to kill everybody. As I said “For anything to have power it must have the fear of the population”. Again I ask Coincidence?
The relation of the Illuminati and Satanism is merely to create fear on the population. Some say they are Satanists others say that they are Luciferians. Now I believe that rumors that they are Luciferians makes more sense than to say that they are Satanists. Illuminati is Latin for “Illumination or the Illuminated ones” Luciferianism is about illumination and they see Lucifer as the god of creation and light. Doesn’t that make more sense than to say that they are Satanists? Satanism is about individualism and self-discipline and not about actual light. Now what doesn’t make sense is that if they are Luciferians they are focused on self-enlightment and magic. Not about domination and destruction as many people claim they are. Satanism does not focus on destruction or domination either it focuses on individualism. None of the ranks or labels connects with what they are claimed to do. The claims that they are Luciferians or Satanists it’s an uneducated assumption or claim.
This is my take on the relation of Satanism and Conspiracy Theories. Feel free to agree or discuss but have fun.
RE: Satanism and Conspiracy Theories. - Marriland - 08-19-2013
Note: Before we begin, the older Illuminati did exist. But it wasn't meant to be what it is today. The Illuminati back when it was founded in 1776 was all about politics and things like that. I forgot to mention that it was also a white supremacist group.
Evangelist you know me very well. I absolutely HATE Illuminati discussions. But, I believe that the Illuminati since the beginning was meant to strike fear to people.
While I personally believe their isn't a modern Illuminati, the modern Illuminati has always since the beginning was made to scare people. While their is little to no information about the Illuminati that is actually factual, it's just a scheme. Quoting the devil in rap songs will make you hype. When their is hype, you're making some $$$
It's also a shame that people believe in the affiliation with the Free Masons and the Illuminati. If you look really deep into both groups, you can see similarities but as a whole they are not similar. It's very absurd that this 21st century believes a deity is controlling wall street, music industry, and the government.
Oh yeah:
TUPAC IS ALIVE. HE'S LIVING IN CUBA.
RE: Satanism and Conspiracy Theories. - Evangelist - 08-19-2013
(08-19-2013, 10:53 PM)Marriland Wrote: Note: Before we begin, the older Illuminati did exist. But it wasn't meant to be what it is today. The Illuminati back when it was founded in 1776 was all about politics and things like that. I forgot to mention that it was also a white supremacist group.
Evangelist you know me very well. I absolutely HATE Illuminati discussions. But, I believe that the Illuminati since the beginning was meant to strike fear to people.
While I personally believe their isn't a modern Illuminati, the modern Illuminati has always since the beginning was made to scare people. While their is little to no information about the Illuminati that is actually factual, it's just a scheme. Quoting the devil in rap songs will make you hype. When their is hype, you're making some $$$
It's also a shame that people believe in the affiliation with the Free Masons and the Illuminati. If you look really deep into both groups, you can see similarities but as a whole they are not similar. It's very absurd that this 21st century believes a deity is controlling wall street, music industry, and the government.
Oh yeah:
TUPAC IS ALIVE. HE'S LIVING IN CUBA.
Well we hear and see more absurd things that the illuminati. And I hope the last sentence was a joke.
RE: Satanism and Conspiracy Theories. - Marriland - 08-19-2013
(08-19-2013, 11:31 PM)Evangelist Wrote:(08-19-2013, 10:53 PM)Marriland Wrote: Note: Before we begin, the older Illuminati did exist. But it wasn't meant to be what it is today. The Illuminati back when it was founded in 1776 was all about politics and things like that. I forgot to mention that it was also a white supremacist group.
Evangelist you know me very well. I absolutely HATE Illuminati discussions. But, I believe that the Illuminati since the beginning was meant to strike fear to people.
While I personally believe their isn't a modern Illuminati, the modern Illuminati has always since the beginning was made to scare people. While their is little to no information about the Illuminati that is actually factual, it's just a scheme. Quoting the devil in rap songs will make you hype. When their is hype, you're making some $$$
It's also a shame that people believe in the affiliation with the Free Masons and the Illuminati. If you look really deep into both groups, you can see similarities but as a whole they are not similar. It's very absurd that this 21st century believes a deity is controlling wall street, music industry, and the government.
Oh yeah:
TUPAC IS ALIVE. HE'S LIVING IN CUBA.
Well we hear and see more absurd things that the illuminati. And I hope the last sentence was a joke.
It isn't a joke. You really think Tupac is dead? Absolutely not. The Illuminati is protecting him. I'm joking. Sheesh
RE: Satanism and Conspiracy Theories. - Matrix - 08-19-2013
I just want to say one thing, and then I'll get to my point. Your sentence about mentioning that someone is a Satanist to a Christian, is not entirely true. It depends on the person, to be completely honest. If the Christian has some sort of brain on their head, or is TRULY a Christian, they won't back away. They may be shocked, but the Christian will try to do everything in their power to convert you. Believe me. I've gone to numerous religion camps and have tested this before. I'd say 70% do what they can to try to sit you down and talk about religion.
Now that that is out of the way; my point.
To be honest, I don't think that the Illuminati is/are all Satanist. As Marriland posted above, it's to strike fear. What do all governments have in the modern day world? A DEFINITE WAY TO STRIKE FEAR INTO THE CITIZENS OF THAT COUNTRY. Now, have we seen that from every country? I'd say probably not, but a government can't run a country without having that one plan incase all hell does break loose.
In 1776, I don't think there were as many problems going on as there is today. Granted, I could be wrong, but with everything over the past 7 decades, it just doesn't seem likely.
Just based on the fact that we don't know a lot about the Illuminati, causes fear to people. Hence why they probably get such a bad name.
Also, if I messed anything up or said anything completely unrelated, let me know lol. I just came back from an eye appointment and I feel like I'm seeing words that may not be there. Just didn't wanna lose the thought that I had on this.
Interesting topic by the way.
RE: Satanism and Conspiracy Theories. - Evangelist - 08-20-2013
(08-19-2013, 11:58 PM)Matrix Wrote: I just want to say one thing, and then I'll get to my point. Your sentence about mentioning that someone is a Satanist to a Christian, is not entirely true. It depends on the person, to be completely honest. If the Christian has some sort of brain on their head, or is TRULY a Christian, they won't back away. They may be shocked, but the Christian will try to do everything in their power to convert you. Believe me. I've gone to numerous religion camps and have tested this before. I'd say 70% do what they can to try to sit you down and talk about religion.
Now that that is out of the way; my point.
To be honest, I don't think that the Illuminati is/are all Satanist. As Marriland posted above, it's to strike fear. What do all governments have in the modern day world? A DEFINITE WAY TO STRIKE FEAR INTO THE CITIZENS OF THAT COUNTRY. Now, have we seen that from every country? I'd say probably not, but a government can't run a country without having that one plan incase all hell does break loose.
In 1776, I don't think there were as many problems going on as there is today. Granted, I could be wrong, but with everything over the past 7 decades, it just doesn't seem likely.
Just based on the fact that we don't know a lot about the Illuminati, causes fear to people. Hence why they probably get such a bad name.
Also, if I messed anything up or said anything completely unrelated, let me know lol. I just came back from an eye appointment and I feel like I'm seeing words that may not be there. Just didn't wanna lose the thought that I had on this.
Interesting topic by the way.
How many Christians can actually call themselves true Christians? I am not wrong in this because I know for a fact that the population that is actually educated on various religions is indeed very small. I have yet to meet a Christian that knows what Satanism is and not the definition that gives you in the Bible.
Oh and I agree with you and Marriland. They are not Satanists but they do carry the label around to inspire fear and create chaos, people fear the unknown and it is in the unknown where you find the best things.
RE: Satanism and Conspiracy Theories. - Matrix - 08-20-2013
(08-20-2013, 12:07 AM)Evangelist Wrote:I don't disagree with you on that. However, I have met Christians that do know Satanism. Not some bullshit definition. They understand it, as well as many other religions. It's to help convert other religions because the more you know about the person who you are trying to convert's religion, the easier it makes it.(08-19-2013, 11:58 PM)Matrix Wrote: I just want to say one thing, and then I'll get to my point. Your sentence about mentioning that someone is a Satanist to a Christian, is not entirely true. It depends on the person, to be completely honest. If the Christian has some sort of brain on their head, or is TRULY a Christian, they won't back away. They may be shocked, but the Christian will try to do everything in their power to convert you. Believe me. I've gone to numerous religion camps and have tested this before. I'd say 70% do what they can to try to sit you down and talk about religion.
Now that that is out of the way; my point.
To be honest, I don't think that the Illuminati is/are all Satanist. As Marriland posted above, it's to strike fear. What do all governments have in the modern day world? A DEFINITE WAY TO STRIKE FEAR INTO THE CITIZENS OF THAT COUNTRY. Now, have we seen that from every country? I'd say probably not, but a government can't run a country without having that one plan incase all hell does break loose.
In 1776, I don't think there were as many problems going on as there is today. Granted, I could be wrong, but with everything over the past 7 decades, it just doesn't seem likely.
Just based on the fact that we don't know a lot about the Illuminati, causes fear to people. Hence why they probably get such a bad name.
Also, if I messed anything up or said anything completely unrelated, let me know lol. I just came back from an eye appointment and I feel like I'm seeing words that may not be there. Just didn't wanna lose the thought that I had on this.
Interesting topic by the way.
How many Christians can actually call themselves true Christians? I am not wrong in this because I know for a fact that the population that is actually educated on various religions is indeed very small. I have yet to meet a Christian that knows what Satanism is and not the definition that gives you in the Bible.
Oh and I agree with you and Marriland. They are not Satanists but they do carry the label around to inspire fear and create chaos, people fear the unknown and it is in the unknown where you find the best things.
"People fear the unknown and it is in the unknown where you find the best things." I like that, I like that a lot.
RE: Satanism and Conspiracy Theories. - Evangelist - 08-20-2013
(08-20-2013, 12:17 AM)Matrix Wrote:(08-20-2013, 12:07 AM)Evangelist Wrote:I don't disagree with you on that. However, I have met Christians that do know Satanism. Not some bullshit definition. They understand it, as well as many other religions. It's to help convert other religions because the more you know about the person who you are trying to convert's religion, the easier it makes it.(08-19-2013, 11:58 PM)Matrix Wrote: I just want to say one thing, and then I'll get to my point. Your sentence about mentioning that someone is a Satanist to a Christian, is not entirely true. It depends on the person, to be completely honest. If the Christian has some sort of brain on their head, or is TRULY a Christian, they won't back away. They may be shocked, but the Christian will try to do everything in their power to convert you. Believe me. I've gone to numerous religion camps and have tested this before. I'd say 70% do what they can to try to sit you down and talk about religion.
Now that that is out of the way; my point.
To be honest, I don't think that the Illuminati is/are all Satanist. As Marriland posted above, it's to strike fear. What do all governments have in the modern day world? A DEFINITE WAY TO STRIKE FEAR INTO THE CITIZENS OF THAT COUNTRY. Now, have we seen that from every country? I'd say probably not, but a government can't run a country without having that one plan incase all hell does break loose.
In 1776, I don't think there were as many problems going on as there is today. Granted, I could be wrong, but with everything over the past 7 decades, it just doesn't seem likely.
Just based on the fact that we don't know a lot about the Illuminati, causes fear to people. Hence why they probably get such a bad name.
Also, if I messed anything up or said anything completely unrelated, let me know lol. I just came back from an eye appointment and I feel like I'm seeing words that may not be there. Just didn't wanna lose the thought that I had on this.
Interesting topic by the way.
How many Christians can actually call themselves true Christians? I am not wrong in this because I know for a fact that the population that is actually educated on various religions is indeed very small. I have yet to meet a Christian that knows what Satanism is and not the definition that gives you in the Bible.
Oh and I agree with you and Marriland. They are not Satanists but they do carry the label around to inspire fear and create chaos, people fear the unknown and it is in the unknown where you find the best things.
"People fear the unknown and it is in the unknown where you find the best things." I like that, I like that a lot.
Well that is great on your part. I haven't met one yet, they all seem to think Satanists kill goats and babies without a purpose.
I just made that up
RE: Satanism and Conspiracy Theories. - Matrix - 08-20-2013
(08-20-2013, 12:22 AM)Evangelist Wrote:I'd say that's just the typical American, not just Christians. I do agree with you though.(08-20-2013, 12:17 AM)Matrix Wrote:(08-20-2013, 12:07 AM)Evangelist Wrote: How many Christians can actually call themselves true Christians? I am not wrong in this because I know for a fact that the population that is actually educated on various religions is indeed very small. I have yet to meet a Christian that knows what Satanism is and not the definition that gives you in the Bible.I don't disagree with you on that. However, I have met Christians that do know Satanism. Not some bullshit definition. They understand it, as well as many other religions. It's to help convert other religions because the more you know about the person who you are trying to convert's religion, the easier it makes it.
Oh and I agree with you and Marriland. They are not Satanists but they do carry the label around to inspire fear and create chaos, people fear the unknown and it is in the unknown where you find the best things.
"People fear the unknown and it is in the unknown where you find the best things." I like that, I like that a lot.
Well that is great on your part. I haven't met one yet, they all seem to think Satanists kill goats and babies without a purpose.
I just made that up
RE: Satanism and Conspiracy Theories. - Evangelist - 08-20-2013
(08-20-2013, 12:38 AM)Matrix Wrote:(08-20-2013, 12:22 AM)Evangelist Wrote:I'd say that's just the typical American, not just Christians. I do agree with you though.(08-20-2013, 12:17 AM)Matrix Wrote: I don't disagree with you on that. However, I have met Christians that do know Satanism. Not some bullshit definition. They understand it, as well as many other religions. It's to help convert other religions because the more you know about the person who you are trying to convert's religion, the easier it makes it.
"People fear the unknown and it is in the unknown where you find the best things." I like that, I like that a lot.
Well that is great on your part. I haven't met one yet, they all seem to think Satanists kill goats and babies without a purpose.
I just made that up
Yes that is the typical American but, if you read my post again the world's dominant religion is in fact Christianity. Most Americans are in fact Christian so when you say that is the typical American you are also saying that is the typical Christian.