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RE: What Are Your Views On Homosexuality? #21
(08-10-2013, 09:32 AM)Evangelist Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 01:22 AM)SFX Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 01:10 AM)Chaos Wrote: Okay, for what reasons do homosexuals deserve to die?
1: It's wrong.
2: It's disgusting.
3: They created one of the worst diseases on this planet.
4: It goes against Gods teachings.

What is wrong? That is a label used to justify anything. It is not wrong just because you don't agree with it.

I can see that. However it should be respected.

That is incorrect. Do your research.

You are an idiot, plain and simple. Christianity teaches you to love your neighbor. To love everybody and be a good person now. Tell me how is wishing death upon somebody is Christian? Most of the times when a person hates homosexuality it is because they are unsure about themselves then blame it on religion. Do tell me how their choices affect you in life? Please tell me how do their choices impair your ability to live? Tell me now.
You guys are twisting my words. I never said god taught us to hate homosexuals. He taught us that it was wrong for one man to lie with another and vise versa for women.

(08-10-2013, 05:17 AM)Demoz Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 04:10 AM)SFX Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 04:07 AM)Demoz Wrote: What are you talking about? HIV came from Monkey's in Africa and you cannot get AIDS from other people, it comes from yourself.
No it didn't come from monkeys in africa and you get HIV from having sexual intercourse (or ingesting another persons bodily fluids EG: Sperm and blood.) Later on in life HIV degrades your immune system. When your immune system can't handle andything and is basically gone it is called AIDS.
Alternatively you can be born with HIV if your mother had it before you were born.

I went to a health class and we had a fucking 4 hour long assembly about STDs. HIV was originally called SIV from Monkeys and it evolved to humans. It was then spread when travellers had sex with African Natives. Please research it. As for the AIDS part, you cannot receive AIDS from ANYONE. You can't get AIDS from someone else. The only way your body can get it is if the HIV INSIDE YOUR BODY, turns into AIDS.
It wasn't even proven it came from monkeys.

I hate debating about this because everyone always gets mad and rages.

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RE: What Are Your Views On Homosexuality? #22
(08-10-2013, 07:36 PM)SFX Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 09:32 AM)Evangelist Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 01:22 AM)SFX Wrote: 1: It's wrong.
2: It's disgusting.
3: They created one of the worst diseases on this planet.
4: It goes against Gods teachings.

What is wrong? That is a label used to justify anything. It is not wrong just because you don't agree with it.

I can see that. However it should be respected.

That is incorrect. Do your research.

You are an idiot, plain and simple. Christianity teaches you to love your neighbor. To love everybody and be a good person now. Tell me how is wishing death upon somebody is Christian? Most of the times when a person hates homosexuality it is because they are unsure about themselves then blame it on religion. Do tell me how their choices affect you in life? Please tell me how do their choices impair your ability to live? Tell me now.
You guys are twisting my words. I never said god taught us to hate homosexuals. He taught us that it was wrong for one man to lie with another and vise versa for women.

(08-10-2013, 05:17 AM)Demoz Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 04:10 AM)SFX Wrote: No it didn't come from monkeys in africa and you get HIV from having sexual intercourse (or ingesting another persons bodily fluids EG: Sperm and blood.) Later on in life HIV degrades your immune system. When your immune system can't handle andything and is basically gone it is called AIDS.
Alternatively you can be born with HIV if your mother had it before you were born.

I went to a health class and we had a fucking 4 hour long assembly about STDs. HIV was originally called SIV from Monkeys and it evolved to humans. It was then spread when travellers had sex with African Natives. Please research it. As for the AIDS part, you cannot receive AIDS from ANYONE. You can't get AIDS from someone else. The only way your body can get it is if the HIV INSIDE YOUR BODY, turns into AIDS.
It wasn't even proven it came from monkeys.

I hate debating about this because everyone always gets mad and rages.

Well, what did you expect when you made a false and bold claim that HIV was created by homosexuals? And that you hide your opinions behind the teachings of the Bible, yet you spread hatred.
"If you look for the light, you can often find it. But if you look for the dark, that is all you will ever see.”


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RE: What Are Your Views On Homosexuality? #23
(08-10-2013, 07:44 PM)Chaos Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 07:36 PM)SFX Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 09:32 AM)Evangelist Wrote: What is wrong? That is a label used to justify anything. It is not wrong just because you don't agree with it.

I can see that. However it should be respected.

That is incorrect. Do your research.

You are an idiot, plain and simple. Christianity teaches you to love your neighbor. To love everybody and be a good person now. Tell me how is wishing death upon somebody is Christian? Most of the times when a person hates homosexuality it is because they are unsure about themselves then blame it on religion. Do tell me how their choices affect you in life? Please tell me how do their choices impair your ability to live? Tell me now.
You guys are twisting my words. I never said god taught us to hate homosexuals. He taught us that it was wrong for one man to lie with another and vise versa for women.

(08-10-2013, 05:17 AM)Demoz Wrote: I went to a health class and we had a fucking 4 hour long assembly about STDs. HIV was originally called SIV from Monkeys and it evolved to humans. It was then spread when travellers had sex with African Natives. Please research it. As for the AIDS part, you cannot receive AIDS from ANYONE. You can't get AIDS from someone else. The only way your body can get it is if the HIV INSIDE YOUR BODY, turns into AIDS.
It wasn't even proven it came from monkeys.

I hate debating about this because everyone always gets mad and rages.

Well, what did you expect when you made a false and bold claim that HIV was created by homosexuals? And that you hide your opinions behind the teachings of the Bible, yet you spread hatred.
It's not a false claim. Prove to me right now that HIV came from monkeys. If not I'm done with this debate.

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RE: What Are Your Views On Homosexuality? #24
(08-10-2013, 07:49 PM)SFX Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 07:44 PM)Chaos Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 07:36 PM)SFX Wrote: You guys are twisting my words. I never said god taught us to hate homosexuals. He taught us that it was wrong for one man to lie with another and vise versa for women.

It wasn't even proven it came from monkeys.

I hate debating about this because everyone always gets mad and rages.

Well, what did you expect when you made a false and bold claim that HIV was created by homosexuals? And that you hide your opinions behind the teachings of the Bible, yet you spread hatred.
It's not a false claim. Prove to me right now that HIV came from monkeys. If not I'm done with this debate.
"The best accepted theory about the origin of HIV is that it is a descendant of a closely related virus, simian immunodeficiency virus (SIV), which infects monkeys. Researchers have known for a long time that certain viruses can pass from animals to humans, a process that is called zoonosis. HIV may have crossed over from chimpanzees as a result of a human killing a chimp and eating it for food.

In 1999, researchers confirmed that tissue from a chimpanzee carried a form of SIV that was nearly identical to an aggressive form of HIV, HIV-1. It appears highly likely chimpanzees were the source of HIV-1, and that the virus at some point crossed species from chimpanzees to humans. We cannot say for sure when the virus first emerged, but it is clear that HIV started to infect humans and became epidemic in the middle of the twentieth century."

"Scientists identified a type of chimpanzee in West Africa as the source of HIV infection in humans. They believe that the chimpanzee version of the immunodeficiency virus (called simian immunodeficiency virus or SIV) most likely was transmitted to humans and mutated into HIV when humans hunted these chimpanzees for meat and came into contact with their infected blood. Over decades, the virus slowly spread across Africa and later into other parts of the world.

The earliest known case of infection with HIV-1 in a human was detected in a blood sample collected in 1959 from a man in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of the Congo. (How he became infected is not known.) Genetic analysis of this blood sample suggested that HIV-1 may have stemmed from a single virus in the late 1940s or early 1950s.

We know that the virus has existed in the United States since at least the mid- to late 1970s. From 1979–1981 rare types of pneumonia, cancer, and other illnesses were being reported by doctors in Los Angeles and New York among a number of male patients who had sex with other men. These were conditions not usually found in people with healthy immune systems."

Now, don't confuse the last part with the creation of the virus.

http://www.avert.org/origin-aids-hiv.htm
There's a small list of several theories thrown around of how HIV started. I didn't see one involving homosexuals. In fact, I couldn't find ANYTHING suggesting that homosexuals were the cause of it. So, I'm hoping for you to come back and show me otherwise. I'm open to more theories.
"If you look for the light, you can often find it. But if you look for the dark, that is all you will ever see.”


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RE: What Are Your Views On Homosexuality? #25
(08-10-2013, 07:58 PM)Chaos Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 07:49 PM)SFX Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 07:44 PM)Chaos Wrote: Well, what did you expect when you made a false and bold claim that HIV was created by homosexuals? And that you hide your opinions behind the teachings of the Bible, yet you spread hatred.
It's not a false claim. Prove to me right now that HIV came from monkeys. If not I'm done with this debate.
"The best accepted theory about the origin of HIV is that it is a descendant of a closely related virus, simian immunodeficiency virus (SIV), which infects monkeys. Researchers have known for a long time that certain viruses can pass from animals to humans, a process that is called zoonosis. HIV may have crossed over from chimpanzees as a result of a human killing a chimp and eating it for food.

In 1999, researchers confirmed that tissue from a chimpanzee carried a form of SIV that was nearly identical to an aggressive form of HIV, HIV-1. It appears highly likely chimpanzees were the source of HIV-1, and that the virus at some point crossed species from chimpanzees to humans. We cannot say for sure when the virus first emerged, but it is clear that HIV started to infect humans and became epidemic in the middle of the twentieth century."

"Scientists identified a type of chimpanzee in West Africa as the source of HIV infection in humans. They believe that the chimpanzee version of the immunodeficiency virus (called simian immunodeficiency virus or SIV) most likely was transmitted to humans and mutated into HIV when humans hunted these chimpanzees for meat and came into contact with their infected blood. Over decades, the virus slowly spread across Africa and later into other parts of the world.

The earliest known case of infection with HIV-1 in a human was detected in a blood sample collected in 1959 from a man in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of the Congo. (How he became infected is not known.) Genetic analysis of this blood sample suggested that HIV-1 may have stemmed from a single virus in the late 1940s or early 1950s.

We know that the virus has existed in the United States since at least the mid- to late 1970s. From 1979–1981 rare types of pneumonia, cancer, and other illnesses were being reported by doctors in Los Angeles and New York among a number of male patients who had sex with other men. These were conditions not usually found in people with healthy immune systems."

Now, don't confuse the last part with the creation of the disease.

http://www.avert.org/origin-aids-hiv.htm
There's a small list of several theories thrown around of how HIV started. I didn't see one involving homosexuals. In fact, I couldn't find ANYTHING suggesting that homosexuals were the cause of it. So, I'm hoping for you to come back and show me otherwise. I open to more theories.

"Best accepted THEORY"
kthnxbai, I said I'm done here.

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RE: What Are Your Views On Homosexuality? #26
(08-10-2013, 07:59 PM)SFX Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 07:58 PM)Chaos Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 07:49 PM)SFX Wrote: It's not a false claim. Prove to me right now that HIV came from monkeys. If not I'm done with this debate.
"The best accepted theory about the origin of HIV is that it is a descendant of a closely related virus, simian immunodeficiency virus (SIV), which infects monkeys. Researchers have known for a long time that certain viruses can pass from animals to humans, a process that is called zoonosis. HIV may have crossed over from chimpanzees as a result of a human killing a chimp and eating it for food.

In 1999, researchers confirmed that tissue from a chimpanzee carried a form of SIV that was nearly identical to an aggressive form of HIV, HIV-1. It appears highly likely chimpanzees were the source of HIV-1, and that the virus at some point crossed species from chimpanzees to humans. We cannot say for sure when the virus first emerged, but it is clear that HIV started to infect humans and became epidemic in the middle of the twentieth century."

"Scientists identified a type of chimpanzee in West Africa as the source of HIV infection in humans. They believe that the chimpanzee version of the immunodeficiency virus (called simian immunodeficiency virus or SIV) most likely was transmitted to humans and mutated into HIV when humans hunted these chimpanzees for meat and came into contact with their infected blood. Over decades, the virus slowly spread across Africa and later into other parts of the world.

The earliest known case of infection with HIV-1 in a human was detected in a blood sample collected in 1959 from a man in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of the Congo. (How he became infected is not known.) Genetic analysis of this blood sample suggested that HIV-1 may have stemmed from a single virus in the late 1940s or early 1950s.

We know that the virus has existed in the United States since at least the mid- to late 1970s. From 1979–1981 rare types of pneumonia, cancer, and other illnesses were being reported by doctors in Los Angeles and New York among a number of male patients who had sex with other men. These were conditions not usually found in people with healthy immune systems."

Now, don't confuse the last part with the creation of the disease.

http://www.avert.org/origin-aids-hiv.htm
There's a small list of several theories thrown around of how HIV started. I didn't see one involving homosexuals. In fact, I couldn't find ANYTHING suggesting that homosexuals were the cause of it. So, I'm hoping for you to come back and show me otherwise. I open to more theories.

"Best accepted THEORY"
kthnxbai, I said I'm done here.

You should probably learn what a SCIENTIFIC theory is before you brush it off like nothing. And the fact that you came back with NOTHING is laughable. Because even if it was just a lame old theory like you think it is, I'd believe that over something that hasn't even been accepted by anyone or doesn't even have a theory behind it.

Bye.
"If you look for the light, you can often find it. But if you look for the dark, that is all you will ever see.”


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RE: What Are Your Views On Homosexuality? #27
(08-10-2013, 08:03 PM)Chaos Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 07:59 PM)SFX Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 07:58 PM)Chaos Wrote: "The best accepted theory about the origin of HIV is that it is a descendant of a closely related virus, simian immunodeficiency virus (SIV), which infects monkeys. Researchers have known for a long time that certain viruses can pass from animals to humans, a process that is called zoonosis. HIV may have crossed over from chimpanzees as a result of a human killing a chimp and eating it for food.

In 1999, researchers confirmed that tissue from a chimpanzee carried a form of SIV that was nearly identical to an aggressive form of HIV, HIV-1. It appears highly likely chimpanzees were the source of HIV-1, and that the virus at some point crossed species from chimpanzees to humans. We cannot say for sure when the virus first emerged, but it is clear that HIV started to infect humans and became epidemic in the middle of the twentieth century."

"Scientists identified a type of chimpanzee in West Africa as the source of HIV infection in humans. They believe that the chimpanzee version of the immunodeficiency virus (called simian immunodeficiency virus or SIV) most likely was transmitted to humans and mutated into HIV when humans hunted these chimpanzees for meat and came into contact with their infected blood. Over decades, the virus slowly spread across Africa and later into other parts of the world.

The earliest known case of infection with HIV-1 in a human was detected in a blood sample collected in 1959 from a man in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of the Congo. (How he became infected is not known.) Genetic analysis of this blood sample suggested that HIV-1 may have stemmed from a single virus in the late 1940s or early 1950s.

We know that the virus has existed in the United States since at least the mid- to late 1970s. From 1979–1981 rare types of pneumonia, cancer, and other illnesses were being reported by doctors in Los Angeles and New York among a number of male patients who had sex with other men. These were conditions not usually found in people with healthy immune systems."

Now, don't confuse the last part with the creation of the disease.

http://www.avert.org/origin-aids-hiv.htm
There's a small list of several theories thrown around of how HIV started. I didn't see one involving homosexuals. In fact, I couldn't find ANYTHING suggesting that homosexuals were the cause of it. So, I'm hoping for you to come back and show me otherwise. I open to more theories.

"Best accepted THEORY"
kthnxbai, I said I'm done here.

You should probably learn what a SCIENTIFIC theory is before you brush it off like nothing. And the fact that you came back with NOTHING is laughable. Because even if it was just a lame old theory like you think it is, I'd believe that over something that hasn't even been accepted by anyone or doesn't even have a theory behind it.

Bye.
I find it funny how you're still trying to debate with me. Also last time I checked there was like 500 different theories on "how monkeys are to blame for HIV". First it was someone fucked a monkey now it's someone ate a monkey and didn't cook it thoroughly enough. To be honest science is wrong a lot. I mean come on look at sciences theory on how the earth was created, look a the theory of evolution it's all laughable, and especially laughable on how you believe it all. Like I said previously, I'm done with this debate.
Also if your theory on how HIV was created was right then it would have had to mutate. Also the host animal for a disease always has the cure within it.

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RE: What Are Your Views On Homosexuality? #28
(08-10-2013, 08:10 PM)SFX Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 08:03 PM)Chaos Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 07:59 PM)SFX Wrote: "Best accepted THEORY"
kthnxbai, I said I'm done here.

You should probably learn what a SCIENTIFIC theory is before you brush it off like nothing. And the fact that you came back with NOTHING is laughable. Because even if it was just a lame old theory like you think it is, I'd believe that over something that hasn't even been accepted by anyone or doesn't even have a theory behind it.

Bye.
I find it funny how you're still trying to debate with me. Also last time I checked there was like 500 different theories on "how monkeys are to blame for HIV". First it was someone fucked a monkey now it's someone ate a monkey and didn't cook it thoroughly enough. To be honest science is wrong a lot. I mean come on look at sciences theory on how the earth was created, look a the theory of evolution it's all laughable, and especially laughable on how you believe it all. Like I said previously, I'm done with this debate.
Also if your theory on how HIV was created was right then it would have had to mutate. Also the host animal for a disease always has the cure within it.

I'm not the one who said I was done with the debate, so I can keep going. Sure, everything looks silly when you simplify it and throw away all the facts within the theories.

I also wasn't aware that the theories on how the Earth was created and evolution were proven wrong? Hmmm.

And I'm also stumped at how the Theory of Evolution is laughable. Really?

You can be done with this debate. Doesn't bother me. I'm not here to force anyone post.
"If you look for the light, you can often find it. But if you look for the dark, that is all you will ever see.”


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RE: What Are Your Views On Homosexuality? #29
(08-10-2013, 08:16 PM)Chaos Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 08:10 PM)SFX Wrote:
(08-10-2013, 08:03 PM)Chaos Wrote: You should probably learn what a SCIENTIFIC theory is before you brush it off like nothing. And the fact that you came back with NOTHING is laughable. Because even if it was just a lame old theory like you think it is, I'd believe that over something that hasn't even been accepted by anyone or doesn't even have a theory behind it.

Bye.
I find it funny how you're still trying to debate with me. Also last time I checked there was like 500 different theories on "how monkeys are to blame for HIV". First it was someone fucked a monkey now it's someone ate a monkey and didn't cook it thoroughly enough. To be honest science is wrong a lot. I mean come on look at sciences theory on how the earth was created, look a the theory of evolution it's all laughable, and especially laughable on how you believe it all. Like I said previously, I'm done with this debate.
Also if your theory on how HIV was created was right then it would have had to mutate. Also the host animal for a disease always has the cure within it.

I'm not the one who said I was done with the debate, so I can keep going. Sure, everything looks silly when you simplify it and throw away all the facts within the theories.

I also wasn't aware that the theories on how the Earth was created and evolution were proven wrong? Hmmm.

And I'm also stumped at how the Theory of Evolution is laughable. Really?

You can be done with this debate. Doesn't bother me. I'm not here to force anyone post.
The Bible proves the theory of evolution and how earth was created wrong. Kthnxbai this is my last reply.

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RE: What Are Your Views On Homosexuality? #30
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