[Syndicate] Members talk about religion. [Opinions and personal reasons] [Adding] 03-16-2013, 02:06 AM
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This is the official Syndicate members Religion discussion.
Here we talk about different religions and the opinions here are truly honest opinions. No sugar coat and such. If you wish to engage in a debate please feel free to do so.
Evangelist:
Catholicism
LaVeyan Satanism.
Theistic Satanism [Coming soon.]
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Catholicism:
Spoiler:
Religion: Catholism
Description: Catholicism is a broad term for describing specific traditions in the Christian churches in theology and doctrine, liturgy, ethics and spirituality.
For many the term usually refers to Christians and churches, western and eastern, in full communion with the Holy See, usually known as the Catholic Church or the Roman Catholic Church. However, many others use the term to refer to other churches with historical continuity from the first millennium.
In the sense of indicating historical continuity of faith and practice, the term "Catholicism" is at times employed to mark a contrast to Protestantism, which tends to look solely to the Bible as interpreted on the principles of the 16th-century Protestant Reformation as its ultimate standard. It was thus used by the Oxford Movement.
For some, however, such as the priest and theologian Richard McBrien, the term refers exclusively and specifically to that "Communion of Catholic Churches" in communion with the Bishop of Rome. In its Letter on Some Aspects of the Church Understood as Communion, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith stressed that the idea of the universal church as a communion of churches must not be presented as meaning that "every particular Church is a subject complete in itself, and that the universal church is the result of a reciprocal recognition on the part of the particular Churches". It insisted that "the universal Church cannot be conceived as the sum of the particular Churches, or as a federation of particular Churches"
According to McBrien, Catholicism is distinguished from other forms of Christianity in its particular understanding and commitment to tradition, the sacraments, the mediation between God, communion, and the See of Rome. According to Orthodox leaders like Bishop Kallistos Ware, the Orthodox Church has these things as well, though the primacy of the See of Rome is only honorific, showing non-jurisdictional respect for the Bishop of Rome as the "first among equals" and "Patriarch of the West". Catholicism, according to McBrien's paradigm, includes a monastic life, religious institutes, a religious appreciation of the arts, a communal understanding of sin and redemption, and missionary activity
Official Symbols: ![[Image: images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSe86rB3VndU-XfIunX4aC...PghweV5Cto]](http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSe86rB3VndU-XfIunX4aC41_Oa_pkaLLjNkv0WxiPghweV5Cto)
Belief:
Direct and continuous organizational descent from the original church founded by Jesus[Matthew 16:18], who, according to tradition, designated the Apostle Peter as its first leader
Belief that Jesus Christ is Divine, a doctrine officially clarified in the First Council of Nicaea and expressed in the Nicene Creed.
Transubstantiation, the belief that the elements in the Eucharist become really, truly, the body, blood, soul and divinity of Christ at consecration, resulting in the Real Presence of Christ, and that, because Christ himself is present in the sacrament, he is to be honored in it with the worship known as Eucharistic adoration.
Possession of the "threefold ordained ministry" of Bishops, Priests and Deacons.
All ministers are ordained by, and subject to, Bishops, who pass down sacramental authority by the "laying-on of hands", having themselves been ordained in a direct line of succession from the Apostles.
Belief that the Church is the vessel and deposit of the fullness of the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles from which the Scriptures were formed. This teaching is preserved in both written scripture and in unwritten tradition, neither being independent of the other.
A belief in the necessity and efficacy of sacraments.
The use of sacred images, candles, vestments and music, and often incense and water, in worship.
Veneration of Mary, the mother of Jesus as the Blessed Virgin Mary or Theotokos (i.e., "God-bearer" or "Mother of God"), and veneration of the saints.
A distinction between adoration (latria) for God, and veneration (dulia) for saints. The term hyperdulia is used for a special veneration accorded to the Virgin Mary among the saints.
The use of prayer for the dead.
The acceptance of canonizations.
Requests to the departed saints for intercessory prayers.
Opinion: Though my religion and beliefs go strongly against the teachings that the Catholic church brings I have a high opinion on this Faith. Though it might be imperfect I have seen people that truly change by this religion. Often categorized as the most intolerant religion to ever exist is one of the most influential on the spiritual and physical world. Most of the laws written by government have been greatly influenced by the Catholic or Christian religions. Though I love my religion I can safely and honestly say that if we had laws influenced by Satanism the world could be chaos or very well organized. With an "Eye for an Eye" morality everybody can go blind. We all have been wronged at some point in our lives if we were to act revengeful against those who wrong us we will be serial killers or repeat offenders. This religion has also greatly influenced on the Sanctity of marriage making it a holy bond with your chosen mate. It is safe to say that this religion could be one of the most influential and powerful out there despite my hate towards it.
Bible [Optional]: You can find the bible here
Personal Relation: As I mentioned on my LaVeyan Satanist section I was raised as a Catholic and from day one I hated it. The teachings held no true meaning to me as a rational person. Though I consider this religion highly hypocritical I mentioned earlier that I still admired the inspirations that this religion introduced into the modern-day world. You might have noticed my hostile approach to this religion in particular and I proceeded to call it hypocritical. I will explain my reasons to depth. The bible states to give everything you have to those less fortunate but instead you see the popes, cardinals etc living in gold palaces while people in Africa kill each other for an inch of bread. You see a huge outburst of priest raping little boys that decided to follow god and be a good person instead they get raped on the altar. Defiled of their infancy.. This religion.. Well not the religion but the people that preach it have successfully made me take the ultimate choice on converting to a Satanist. Though I promised not to take it against a religion in this thread but you must understand that I cannot talk highly about something that has destroyed so many innocent lives emotionally.
I cannot judge a whole religion by the actions of selected individuals despite how rotten they are so I will end it here.
Sources Wikipedia and The Holy Bible.
Description: Catholicism is a broad term for describing specific traditions in the Christian churches in theology and doctrine, liturgy, ethics and spirituality.
For many the term usually refers to Christians and churches, western and eastern, in full communion with the Holy See, usually known as the Catholic Church or the Roman Catholic Church. However, many others use the term to refer to other churches with historical continuity from the first millennium.
In the sense of indicating historical continuity of faith and practice, the term "Catholicism" is at times employed to mark a contrast to Protestantism, which tends to look solely to the Bible as interpreted on the principles of the 16th-century Protestant Reformation as its ultimate standard. It was thus used by the Oxford Movement.
For some, however, such as the priest and theologian Richard McBrien, the term refers exclusively and specifically to that "Communion of Catholic Churches" in communion with the Bishop of Rome. In its Letter on Some Aspects of the Church Understood as Communion, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith stressed that the idea of the universal church as a communion of churches must not be presented as meaning that "every particular Church is a subject complete in itself, and that the universal church is the result of a reciprocal recognition on the part of the particular Churches". It insisted that "the universal Church cannot be conceived as the sum of the particular Churches, or as a federation of particular Churches"
According to McBrien, Catholicism is distinguished from other forms of Christianity in its particular understanding and commitment to tradition, the sacraments, the mediation between God, communion, and the See of Rome. According to Orthodox leaders like Bishop Kallistos Ware, the Orthodox Church has these things as well, though the primacy of the See of Rome is only honorific, showing non-jurisdictional respect for the Bishop of Rome as the "first among equals" and "Patriarch of the West". Catholicism, according to McBrien's paradigm, includes a monastic life, religious institutes, a religious appreciation of the arts, a communal understanding of sin and redemption, and missionary activity
Official Symbols:
Spoiler:
Belief:
Direct and continuous organizational descent from the original church founded by Jesus[Matthew 16:18], who, according to tradition, designated the Apostle Peter as its first leader
Belief that Jesus Christ is Divine, a doctrine officially clarified in the First Council of Nicaea and expressed in the Nicene Creed.
Transubstantiation, the belief that the elements in the Eucharist become really, truly, the body, blood, soul and divinity of Christ at consecration, resulting in the Real Presence of Christ, and that, because Christ himself is present in the sacrament, he is to be honored in it with the worship known as Eucharistic adoration.
Possession of the "threefold ordained ministry" of Bishops, Priests and Deacons.
All ministers are ordained by, and subject to, Bishops, who pass down sacramental authority by the "laying-on of hands", having themselves been ordained in a direct line of succession from the Apostles.
Belief that the Church is the vessel and deposit of the fullness of the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles from which the Scriptures were formed. This teaching is preserved in both written scripture and in unwritten tradition, neither being independent of the other.
A belief in the necessity and efficacy of sacraments.
The use of sacred images, candles, vestments and music, and often incense and water, in worship.
Veneration of Mary, the mother of Jesus as the Blessed Virgin Mary or Theotokos (i.e., "God-bearer" or "Mother of God"), and veneration of the saints.
A distinction between adoration (latria) for God, and veneration (dulia) for saints. The term hyperdulia is used for a special veneration accorded to the Virgin Mary among the saints.
The use of prayer for the dead.
The acceptance of canonizations.
Requests to the departed saints for intercessory prayers.
Opinion: Though my religion and beliefs go strongly against the teachings that the Catholic church brings I have a high opinion on this Faith. Though it might be imperfect I have seen people that truly change by this religion. Often categorized as the most intolerant religion to ever exist is one of the most influential on the spiritual and physical world. Most of the laws written by government have been greatly influenced by the Catholic or Christian religions. Though I love my religion I can safely and honestly say that if we had laws influenced by Satanism the world could be chaos or very well organized. With an "Eye for an Eye" morality everybody can go blind. We all have been wronged at some point in our lives if we were to act revengeful against those who wrong us we will be serial killers or repeat offenders. This religion has also greatly influenced on the Sanctity of marriage making it a holy bond with your chosen mate. It is safe to say that this religion could be one of the most influential and powerful out there despite my hate towards it.
Bible [Optional]: You can find the bible here
Personal Relation: As I mentioned on my LaVeyan Satanist section I was raised as a Catholic and from day one I hated it. The teachings held no true meaning to me as a rational person. Though I consider this religion highly hypocritical I mentioned earlier that I still admired the inspirations that this religion introduced into the modern-day world. You might have noticed my hostile approach to this religion in particular and I proceeded to call it hypocritical. I will explain my reasons to depth. The bible states to give everything you have to those less fortunate but instead you see the popes, cardinals etc living in gold palaces while people in Africa kill each other for an inch of bread. You see a huge outburst of priest raping little boys that decided to follow god and be a good person instead they get raped on the altar. Defiled of their infancy.. This religion.. Well not the religion but the people that preach it have successfully made me take the ultimate choice on converting to a Satanist. Though I promised not to take it against a religion in this thread but you must understand that I cannot talk highly about something that has destroyed so many innocent lives emotionally.
I cannot judge a whole religion by the actions of selected individuals despite how rotten they are so I will end it here.
Sources Wikipedia and The Holy Bible.
LaVeyan Satanism
Spoiler:
Religion: LaVeyan Satanism
Description: LaVeyan Satanism, often referred to simply as Satanism among most adherents is a tradition in Satanism founded in 1966 by Anton LaVey. Its teachings are based on individualism, hedonism and "eye for an eye" morality, drawing influences from the rituals and ceremonies of occultist Alister Crowley and the philosophies of Friedrich Nietzsche and Ayn Rand. Employing Crowley's terminology, its adherents define Satanism as a "Left-Hand Path" religion and philosophy, rejecting traditional "Right-Hand Path" religions such as Christianity and Wicca for their perceived denial of life, and, as in Christianity, emphasis on abstinence and unnecessary guilt. Unlike Theistic Satanism, LaVeyan Satanism does not involve the literal worship of any being other than the self, but rather uses "Satan" as a symbol of carnality and earthly values, of man's inherent nature, and of a cosmos which Satanists perceive to be permeated and motivated by a force that has been given many names by man over the course of time. Anton LaVey established Satanism's first and largest religious organization, the Church of Satan, in 1966, and codified Satanic beliefs and practices in The Satanic Bible in 1969. The Church of Satan acknowledges that there are many Satanists around the world, including both members and non-members. It often rejects the legitimacy of any other organizations of Satanists, dubbing them reverse-Christians, pseudo-Satanists or Devil worshipers.
Official Symbols:
![[Image: Baphosimb.gif]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Baphosimb.gif)
Belief: The Beliefs of a LaVeyan Satanist are fairly simple. You are your own God. Quoting The Satanic Bible
"Satanists do not believe in the supernatural, in neither God nor the Devil. To the Satanist, he is his own God. Satan is a symbol of Man living as his prideful, carnal nature dictates. The reality behind Satan is simply the dark evolutionary force of entropy that permeates all of nature and provides the drive for survival and propagation inherent in all living things. Satan is not a conscious entity to be worshiped, rather a reservoir of power inside each human to be tapped at will. Thus any concept of sacrifice is rejected as a Christian aberration—in Satanism there’s no deity to which one can sacrifice."
Opinion: This brutally selfish religion has made a lot of enemies not only from the Christian community but has made enemies from the Satanic community as well. Theistic Satanist or Spiritual Satanist always hold resentment on their eyes against this religion. To quote some of them. "I hate the fact that they use Satan as a symbol for indulgence" They believe that using Satan as a symbol of indulgence and free-will brings shame and disgust to the name Satan and to their beliefs. LaVeyan Satanism often viewed as "Atheism with rules" brings a lot of things to the table such as deep Philosophy and personal teachings. While contrary to the popular belief that the LaVeyan Satanist does know acknowledge the power of magic and spirituality I can safely say that they are dead wrong. I read the bible and I was in love with it. Me being a Satanist I can say that if this religion and Theistic Satanism joined together it would be an incredible religion. Such as they will be rules and deities to worship I would call it "SATANISM!" Holding no distinction to both forms of Satanism. So my opinion on this religion is very indeed strong in a positive matter. I believe that this is one if not the most hated religion out there. Receiving hate from all sides. Braves are the ones who dwell on daily ridicule by White-light and black-light religionists.
Bible [Optional]: The bible can be found Here
Personal Relation: Being raised by a Catholic family I always saw how they will go to church and talk about the love of god and such but when they saw a Homosexual or somebody that they didn't agree with they would turn so hateful and act out or wrath. I always believed that Catholicism was the enemy on my house hold and I turned cold over the years of worthless dogmas and bogus values being force fed to me. I decided I wanted to know the enemy (The bible says "Know thy enemy") As a rebellious catholic I digged around "Forbidden territory" I found more logic on this beautiful hateful religion than I ever found on religions that praise love and kindness. I decided to convert to a LaVeyan Satanist at the age of 15 though I wasn't at all educated on the teachings ahead. I commented this to my parents and they acted blinded with rage towards me and shunned me out of my home. At that moment I decided to fully educate and convert to a Satanist as I saw the white-light religions caused more damage than others. This is my true feelings about the matter. This is how I felt I am in no way judging you for being a Christian. The Catholic bible has wonderful teachings and stories to help you guide your mind into the right path but In my heart is all lies.
Sources: Wikipedia and The Satanic Bible.
Description: LaVeyan Satanism, often referred to simply as Satanism among most adherents is a tradition in Satanism founded in 1966 by Anton LaVey. Its teachings are based on individualism, hedonism and "eye for an eye" morality, drawing influences from the rituals and ceremonies of occultist Alister Crowley and the philosophies of Friedrich Nietzsche and Ayn Rand. Employing Crowley's terminology, its adherents define Satanism as a "Left-Hand Path" religion and philosophy, rejecting traditional "Right-Hand Path" religions such as Christianity and Wicca for their perceived denial of life, and, as in Christianity, emphasis on abstinence and unnecessary guilt. Unlike Theistic Satanism, LaVeyan Satanism does not involve the literal worship of any being other than the self, but rather uses "Satan" as a symbol of carnality and earthly values, of man's inherent nature, and of a cosmos which Satanists perceive to be permeated and motivated by a force that has been given many names by man over the course of time. Anton LaVey established Satanism's first and largest religious organization, the Church of Satan, in 1966, and codified Satanic beliefs and practices in The Satanic Bible in 1969. The Church of Satan acknowledges that there are many Satanists around the world, including both members and non-members. It often rejects the legitimacy of any other organizations of Satanists, dubbing them reverse-Christians, pseudo-Satanists or Devil worshipers.
Official Symbols:
Spoiler:
Belief: The Beliefs of a LaVeyan Satanist are fairly simple. You are your own God. Quoting The Satanic Bible
"Satanists do not believe in the supernatural, in neither God nor the Devil. To the Satanist, he is his own God. Satan is a symbol of Man living as his prideful, carnal nature dictates. The reality behind Satan is simply the dark evolutionary force of entropy that permeates all of nature and provides the drive for survival and propagation inherent in all living things. Satan is not a conscious entity to be worshiped, rather a reservoir of power inside each human to be tapped at will. Thus any concept of sacrifice is rejected as a Christian aberration—in Satanism there’s no deity to which one can sacrifice."
Opinion: This brutally selfish religion has made a lot of enemies not only from the Christian community but has made enemies from the Satanic community as well. Theistic Satanist or Spiritual Satanist always hold resentment on their eyes against this religion. To quote some of them. "I hate the fact that they use Satan as a symbol for indulgence" They believe that using Satan as a symbol of indulgence and free-will brings shame and disgust to the name Satan and to their beliefs. LaVeyan Satanism often viewed as "Atheism with rules" brings a lot of things to the table such as deep Philosophy and personal teachings. While contrary to the popular belief that the LaVeyan Satanist does know acknowledge the power of magic and spirituality I can safely say that they are dead wrong. I read the bible and I was in love with it. Me being a Satanist I can say that if this religion and Theistic Satanism joined together it would be an incredible religion. Such as they will be rules and deities to worship I would call it "SATANISM!" Holding no distinction to both forms of Satanism. So my opinion on this religion is very indeed strong in a positive matter. I believe that this is one if not the most hated religion out there. Receiving hate from all sides. Braves are the ones who dwell on daily ridicule by White-light and black-light religionists.
Bible [Optional]: The bible can be found Here
Personal Relation: Being raised by a Catholic family I always saw how they will go to church and talk about the love of god and such but when they saw a Homosexual or somebody that they didn't agree with they would turn so hateful and act out or wrath. I always believed that Catholicism was the enemy on my house hold and I turned cold over the years of worthless dogmas and bogus values being force fed to me. I decided I wanted to know the enemy (The bible says "Know thy enemy") As a rebellious catholic I digged around "Forbidden territory" I found more logic on this beautiful hateful religion than I ever found on religions that praise love and kindness. I decided to convert to a LaVeyan Satanist at the age of 15 though I wasn't at all educated on the teachings ahead. I commented this to my parents and they acted blinded with rage towards me and shunned me out of my home. At that moment I decided to fully educate and convert to a Satanist as I saw the white-light religions caused more damage than others. This is my true feelings about the matter. This is how I felt I am in no way judging you for being a Christian. The Catholic bible has wonderful teachings and stories to help you guide your mind into the right path but In my heart is all lies.
Sources: Wikipedia and The Satanic Bible.
Devil Child:
Judaism:
Spoiler:
Religion: Judaism
Description: "There is on G-d, and only one G-d." would be a good quote to describe Judaism. There are a lot of laws, and every single law, no matter how big or small, has a very deep meaning. For example, there is a specific way to tie your shoes. While that seems silly, there is a lot of reasoning behind it.
Official Symbols: Star Of David,or in Hebrew transliteration mag-en-dav-Ed.
Belief: There are many different kind of Jews who all believe in the same base of Judaism. Even though I go to a Jewish Day School, it is almost impossible to explain Judaism because it takes many years to even remotely comprehend.
Opinion: Personally, I love my religion. I often doubt G-d, but that's normal for a teenager. I think it is a great religion, and if your ever given the opportunity to learn even a little about it, I think you should.
Bible [Optional]:
Personal Relation: I go to a Jewish Day School. We pray every single morning, although nobody takes it seriously. I'm not a religious Jew; however I do believe in G-d.
Description: "There is on G-d, and only one G-d." would be a good quote to describe Judaism. There are a lot of laws, and every single law, no matter how big or small, has a very deep meaning. For example, there is a specific way to tie your shoes. While that seems silly, there is a lot of reasoning behind it.
Official Symbols: Star Of David,or in Hebrew transliteration mag-en-dav-Ed.
Belief: There are many different kind of Jews who all believe in the same base of Judaism. Even though I go to a Jewish Day School, it is almost impossible to explain Judaism because it takes many years to even remotely comprehend.
Opinion: Personally, I love my religion. I often doubt G-d, but that's normal for a teenager. I think it is a great religion, and if your ever given the opportunity to learn even a little about it, I think you should.
Bible [Optional]:
Personal Relation: I go to a Jewish Day School. We pray every single morning, although nobody takes it seriously. I'm not a religious Jew; however I do believe in G-d.
King Cairo:
Islam:
Spoiler:
Religion:Islam.
Description:A peaceful religion, just some people in the religion is stupid as fuck and they all deserve too die.
Official Symbols:
Belief:I kinda don't really believe in it that much. I was just born as a muslim and I've read about islam and I've been to mosques and everything. I still don't fully believe in it.
Opinion:Great religion if you want to find friends, peace and knowledge.
Bible [Optional]:Quran:I haven't that much from it.
Personal Relation:Whats in my mind stays in my mind.
Description:A peaceful religion, just some people in the religion is stupid as fuck and they all deserve too die.
Official Symbols:
Belief:I kinda don't really believe in it that much. I was just born as a muslim and I've read about islam and I've been to mosques and everything. I still don't fully believe in it.
Opinion:Great religion if you want to find friends, peace and knowledge.
Bible [Optional]:Quran:I haven't that much from it.
Personal Relation:Whats in my mind stays in my mind.
Sypher
Theistic Satanism:
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Religion: Theistic Satanism
Description: Theistic Satanism is its spiritual aspect. In other words, we do not refer to Satan as an 'archetype' but as a real being. We are not like 'Hollywood Satanists' who promote the blood sacrifice bullcrap. We are law abiding and respect nature and animals. Our beliefs may be analogous to Ancient Paganism, and by Ancient Paganism I mean Original Paganism, not the neo-pagan followers of today (Wicca, etc.). A lot of Theistic Satanists believe that Satan is our creator god, and has been known by many names (Enki, Ea, Melek Ta'us, Shiva, etc.)
We don't really have a set of morals, other than don't be stupid. We ignore all of the sins of the Christian Bible, as they are designed to deteriorate true human nature.
Official Symbols
Bible or Book? There is no official book on Theistic Satanism.
Personal Relation: I got into Theistic Satanism when I was 13. After a couple months of researching, somebody referred me to Joy of Satan Ministries and I have done the 'dedication rite' on their website over one and a half years ago. Honestly it's the best religion i've chosen in my opinion.
Description: Theistic Satanism is its spiritual aspect. In other words, we do not refer to Satan as an 'archetype' but as a real being. We are not like 'Hollywood Satanists' who promote the blood sacrifice bullcrap. We are law abiding and respect nature and animals. Our beliefs may be analogous to Ancient Paganism, and by Ancient Paganism I mean Original Paganism, not the neo-pagan followers of today (Wicca, etc.). A lot of Theistic Satanists believe that Satan is our creator god, and has been known by many names (Enki, Ea, Melek Ta'us, Shiva, etc.)
We don't really have a set of morals, other than don't be stupid. We ignore all of the sins of the Christian Bible, as they are designed to deteriorate true human nature.
Official Symbols
Bible or Book? There is no official book on Theistic Satanism.
Personal Relation: I got into Theistic Satanism when I was 13. After a couple months of researching, somebody referred me to Joy of Satan Ministries and I have done the 'dedication rite' on their website over one and a half years ago. Honestly it's the best religion i've chosen in my opinion.
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