[Death Rattle]

You know, there's this thing called the Chinese Room Argument. Basically, imagine a room with no windows and a locked door. There's a letter box in the door; that's about it. Inside the room there's a Chinese woman with a pen and paper. She also has a book that translates English to Chinese. So every now and then, a letter comes through the letterbox with some English on it. "Hello, how are you?", it might say. She opens her book and she matches up the squiggles and figures out which squiggles to draw to reply to the question. "I'm fine. And how are you?", she writes. She manages to conduct a conversation without knowing a word of English or even knowing what she said. All of her intelligence, her conscience came from some rules in a book.

We don't understand consciousness, so we cannot recreate it. We can make another room with a more advanced book, but we cannot create true AI.

At least not yet.

Interesting read:
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/chinese-room/

It's not exactly as you put it, but close enough.

[Eclipse]

Interesting read:
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/chinese-room/

It's not exactly as you put it, but close enough.

Same concept.

[lux]

You know, there's this thing called the Chinese Room Argument. Basically, imagine a room with no windows and a locked door. There's a letter box in the door; that's about it. Inside the room there's a Chinese woman with a pen and paper. She also has a book that translates English to Chinese. So every now and then, a letter comes through the letterbox with some English on it. "Hello, how are you?", it might say. She opens her book and she matches up the squiggles and figures out which squiggles to draw to reply to the question. "I'm fine. And how are you?", she writes. She manages to conduct a conversation without knowing a word of English or even knowing what she said. All of her intelligence, her conscience came from some rules in a book.

We don't understand consciousness, so we cannot recreate it. We can make another room with a more advanced book, but we cannot create true AI.

At least not yet.

But, we can imitate consciousness.

When one reads enough books, they'll be able to author their own.

When we get to a stage where a machine can take apart these theoretical books, and what goes in to creating them, and re-create it's own original content, we have imitated consciousness.

[Eclipse]

But, we can imitate consciousness.

When one reads enough books, they'll be able to author their own.

When we get to a stage where a machine can take apart these theoretical books, and what goes in to creating them, and re-create it's own original content, we have imitated consciousness.

Imitating conciousness isn't AI, as much as we want it to be.

[Dismas]

Imitating conciousness isn't AI, as much as we want it to be.

AI does stand for artificial intelligence.

[Eclipse]

AI does stand for artificial intelligence.

Artificial means man-made, not fake.

[Boudica]

I love reading up about AI. There are so many strands of AI which already exists. However, it's frightening and exciting to think that AI is being produced that is nearing the equivalent of our intelligence.

It makes me want to ask questions about what makes me alive. I feel like my mind is completely separate from my body, but in reality it's chemicals, biological matter, electrical signals and so on. I wonder where the line between "us" and "them" really begins to blur.

[Crypt]

Artificail means man-made, not fake.

I disagree. If it's not made by nature itself, it's probably not good enough to be called "real". Synthetic diamonds and diamonds created by nature are a good example.

[Eclipse]

I disagree. If it's not made by nature itself, it's probably not good enough to be called "real". Synthetic diamonds and diamonds created by nature are a good example.

Why not? Man made diamonds are just as real as real diamonds, down to the atoms. It's the fact that they're natural that gives them value. Artificial intelligence is a whole different ballgame. It's not so easy.