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RE: Prince Ea - Why weed should be legalized. #11
Some retard already made a thread regarding this, I won't repeat myself, so you can read it if you want to know why I don't think weed (or any drug for that matter) should be legal - https://sinister.ly/Thread-Drugs--65434?page=2

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RE: Prince Ea - Why weed should be legalized. #12
(11-10-2016, 03:29 PM)meow Wrote: Some retard already made a thread regarding this, I won't repeat myself, so you can read it if you want to know why I don't think weed (or any drug for that matter) should be legal - https://sinister.ly/Thread-Drugs--65434?page=2

So brutally honest.

Do you get a sense of satisfaction from hurting people whether mentally or physically? Just curious.

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RE: Prince Ea - Why weed should be legalized. #13
(11-10-2016, 03:29 PM)meow Wrote: Some retard already made a thread regarding this, I won't repeat myself, so you can read it if you want to know why I don't think weed (or any drug for that matter) should be legal - https://sinister.ly/Thread-Drugs--65434?page=2

I didn't reply, since one of your sources mentioned the following:
  • "it has not been causally linked with tobacco related cancers such as lung, colon or rectal cancers."
  • "compounds found in cannabis have been shown to kill numerous cancer types including: lung cancer, breast and prostate, leukemia and lymphoma, glioma, skin cancer, and pheochromocytoma"
  • "components of cannabis smoke minimize some carcinogenic pathways whereas tobacco smoke enhances some."
  • "current knowledge does not suggest that cannabis smoke will have a carcinogenic potential comparable to that resulting from exposure to tobacco smoke."
  • "noted that with the development of vaporizers, that use the respiratory route for the delivery of carcinogen-free cannabis vapors, the carcinogenic potential of smoked cannabis has been largely eliminated"

Still immature as ever, I see.
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RE: Prince Ea - Why weed should be legalized. #14
(11-11-2016, 01:05 AM)Luka Wrote: [*]"it has not been causally linked with tobacco related cancers such as lung, colon or rectal cancers."

Irrelevant. Still contains carcinogens.

(11-11-2016, 01:05 AM)Luka Wrote: [*]"compounds found in cannabis have been shown to kill numerous cancer types including: lung cancer, breast and prostate, leukemia and lymphoma, glioma, skin cancer, and pheochromocytoma"

Also irrelevant. The fact that it kills certain types of cancer doesn't suddenly make it good or not bad. Keep in mind that "kills" in this context is not a synonym for "cures".

(11-11-2016, 01:05 AM)Luka Wrote: [*]"components of cannabis smoke minimize some carcinogenic pathways whereas tobacco smoke enhances some."

Again, irrelevant. Still contains carcinogens.

(11-11-2016, 01:05 AM)Luka Wrote: [*]"current knowledge does not suggest that cannabis smoke will have a carcinogenic potential comparable to that resulting from exposure to tobacco smoke."

For the fourth time, irrelevant. Not once did I say or imply that cannibis was better or worse than tobacco or vice versa. The fact that smoking cigarettes is worse than weed is not justification for legalizing weed. Cigarettes are only legal because tobacco products play a large role in the US economy, not because they're not bad.

(11-11-2016, 01:05 AM)Luka Wrote: [*]"noted that with the development of vaporizers, that use the respiratory route for the delivery of carcinogen-free cannabis vapors, the carcinogenic potential of smoked cannabis has been largely eliminated"

Vaping is already legal, try again. Also take note to the fact that largely eliminated is not the same as completely eliminated.

(11-11-2016, 01:05 AM)Luka Wrote: Still immature as ever, I see.

Still ignorant as ever, I see. By the way, being rude isn't an ad hominem logical fallacy, you should do a little more research before throwing around words and phrases that you just now learned in your 9th grade English class. I also noticed that you disregarded my statement about cannibis's neurological effects and merely attempted to attack my statement about carcinogens. Therefor, even if you did successfully combat my point regarding carcinogens, which you won't be doing based on past observations, you still have the neuroscience to tackle. Good luck.
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RE: Prince Ea - Why weed should be legalized. #15
(11-10-2016, 05:44 PM)Abaddon Wrote:
(11-10-2016, 03:29 PM)meow Wrote: Some retard already made a thread regarding this, I won't repeat myself, so you can read it if you want to know why I don't think weed (or any drug for that matter) should be legal - https://sinister.ly/Thread-Drugs--65434?page=2

So brutally honest.

Do you get a sense of satisfaction from hurting people whether mentally or physically? Just curious.

No; I'm not a sadist.

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RE: Prince Ea - Why weed should be legalized. #16
(11-10-2016, 02:02 PM)mothered Wrote: People tend to overlook the fact that weed has many health benefits.

They hear the term "weed", and It's Immediately frowned upon. Sure, It can caused adverse effects when taken In high doses, but so too can drinking 10 litres of water In one hit.

People follow the media, not what's actually happening.

It's sad.
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RE: Prince Ea - Why weed should be legalized. #17
(11-11-2016, 02:04 AM)meow Wrote:
(11-11-2016, 01:05 AM)Luka Wrote: [*]"current knowledge does not suggest that cannabis smoke will have a carcinogenic potential comparable to that resulting from exposure to tobacco smoke."

For the fourth time, irrelevant. Not once did I say or imply that cannibis was better or worse than tobacco or vice versa. The fact that smoking cigarettes is worse than weed is not justification for legalizing weed. Cigarettes are only legal because tobacco products play a large role in the US economy, not because they're not bad.

In your original post (https://sinister.ly/Thread-Drugs--65434?...#pid567091)
"Yeah, let's make available and legalize drugs that have more carcinogens than cigarettes"

In your last post (https://sinister.ly/Thread-Drugs--65434?...#pid567206), you said:
"The point is that cannabis smoke contains more carcinogens than tobacco smoke."

Hilariously, your own source (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1277837/) suggested the opposite. So, many of my arguments are relevant.

(11-11-2016, 02:04 AM)meow Wrote:
(11-11-2016, 01:05 AM)Luka Wrote: [*]"noted that with the development of vaporizers, that use the respiratory route for the delivery of carcinogen-free cannabis vapors, the carcinogenic potential of smoked cannabis has been largely eliminated"

Vaping is already legal, try again. Also take note to the fact that largely eliminated is not the same as completely eliminated.

(11-11-2016, 01:05 AM)Luka Wrote: Still immature as ever, I see.

Still ignorant as ever, I see. By the way, being rude isn't an ad hominem logical fallacy, you should do a little more research before throwing around words and phrases that you just now learned in your 9th grade English class. I also noticed that you disregarded my statement about cannibis's neurological effects and merely attempted to attack my statement about carcinogens. Therefor, even if you did successfully combat my point regarding carcinogens, which you won't be doing based on past observations, you still have the neuroscience to tackle. Good luck.

Laws don't dictate how cannabis is ingested (except in a couple medical states). In the source you provided, it suggested the vapor is "carcinogen-free". Contrary to you, I actually read all of my sources thoroughly. I only touched briefly on the neurological effects, simply because I'd rather not hear an "entire lecture of neuroscience out of [your] bootyhole".

Care to read again?

(04-10-2016, 07:09 PM)Luka Wrote: Your second source is covering people that are smoking abnormally large amounts (">10 years", ">5 joints daily") of cannabis. Despite that, it fails to establish how the brain changes are considered "damaging" and doesn't prove that users are impaired. Studies have suggested a correlation between less grey matter/increased connection[2], but never a difference/correlation with intelligence or IQ[3]. Fertility isn't even worth discussing, as cigarettes and other products/pharmaceuticals also lower fertility (and aren't illegal).

1. http://therealcost.betobaccofree.hhs.gov...index.html
2. http://www.utdallas.edu/news/2014/11/11-...-wide.html
3. http://www.pnas.org/content/113/5/E500
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RE: Prince Ea - Why weed should be legalized. #18
I can see plenty of reasons to legalize the drug, although I also know of far too many reasons NOT to legalize it. When it comes to recreational use, I get it, people enjoy it. I won't say it hasn't interested me, but as @meow has put it, legalizing it could pose a lot of risks, not just for the user, but for everyone. If it gets legalized, okay. I won't be the one to actively fight it because I don't mind. However, I also won't be one actively fighting for it.
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RE: Prince Ea - Why weed should be legalized. #19
Interesting how weed legalization is compared with cigarettes... Are we forgetting alcohol is legal and is vastly more damaging than many illegal drugs and cigarettes? Or so I've read.
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RE: Prince Ea - Why weed should be legalized. #20
(11-11-2016, 09:12 AM)Jiggly Wrote: Interesting how weed legalization is compared with cigarettes... Are we forgetting alcohol is legal and is vastly more damaging than many illegal drugs and cigarettes? Or so I've read.

Alcohol is classified a drug, although if they illegalize that I'd be unhappy.
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