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#OpReviveSBB - Let's Get SBB Active Again! #1
Firstly, the main question that is probably on a lot of people's minds, "Is SBB still active? Is SBB dying?"
Well, that is debatable. It's decently active, but not compared to what it was. You could say SBB is dying, but by no means is it dead. So don't think that I believe SBB is dead. If you want to argue SBB is still an active forum, you can, but that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying it's dying, not that it's dead.
Now, don't try to say we all haven't thought that. I know most of the staff are feeling it and anyone with a decent sense knows it, especially those that were around since SBB was made.

Now, onto what I personally think will revive SBB and will be a LONG term solution to keep SBB growing.

Step 1: Use Promotion Forums.
SBB has not used this to its full potential, it has advertised on around 4 forums. There are dozens, and that's plural for you people who didn't catch that. It hasn't even been advertised on ForumPromotion.net, one of the LARGEST forum promotion websites there is. @2 forgets this isn't a leaking forum and he can advertise almost anywhere. Now, let me get into step 2 and why the advertisement method needs changing content wise.

Step 2: More Content
I don't mean more content on the site, I mean more content in the advertisements for SBB. Here is an example of the one from the MyBB Community:
https://community.mybb.com/thread-193228.html
I will make references to that, so I suggest you check it out before replying to this.

So let me say something about the thread design, it looks good and all, BUT I want you to notice how much content is on it(text). I'll bring this up later.

Let's start by checking the first part of text below the design,
Quote:After a long month in beta, we're finally live. Whilst in beta, lots of features were suggested along with plenty of bugs. We now think we're ready to be opened. You may know me as Nath. I was the former owner of Reality Forums and seeing as Sirius Forums has gone down hill, we've came back, but much more unique.

We have 4 admins, each have their own jobs: Nath - Community admin, deals with upgrades and community issues. Dvlpr - Develops new features and fixes bugs. Paradigm - Develops new features and fixes bugs. Noah - Does design based work, makes us look beautiful and appealing.
Okay, so pretty good for a human to read. SEO wise there isn't any real good content there.

Maybe that's just a bad selection though, lets look at the rest ay?
Quote:Our custom features:
Steal usernames: If a permanently banned member has a great username which you like, you can steal it off him.

Userbar Hue: Allows you to change the hue and saturation of your userbar.

Change Location: Allows you to have your own custom location.

Profile Tags: Allows you to have your own custom tags on your profile.

Sidebar settings: Allows to you choose what forums to show, or whether to hide it completely.

Theme settings: Allows you to hide certain postbit features. Works, but the page is being designed.

Dice credits game: Allows you to bet against the system in order to win credits.

1V1 RPS Credits game: Allows you to bet against other users in order to win credits.

Custom Notification system: Notifies you when someone replies to your thread, changes your rep etc.

Custom Conversation system: Allows you to contact other on site members. Looks a lot nicer than the standard PM system.

Vacation Ban system: Blaze users can ban their self temporarily.

This is it for the moment, however we're always looking for suggestions. Please feel free to suggest some! Hope we see you there.

Check us out at: http://supremebb.net
Well now, lots of "content" right? Well, this is great information for a human, but again, nothing good for SEO. The link at the bottom is nice though and is necessary.
Now, remember the thread design? Take a minute to take a second look at the thread design... Okay, so you see how much more content there is on the thread design than in the thread itself? But even it isn't perfect.
Ways to Fix:
  • More content in thread
  • Insert niches and descriptions of what is discussed on SBB. (Out of thread design)
  • Try to find places for a few more links to pages on SBB other than the home page.
  • Put link right below or even above the thread design so as it is the first thing the person sees before or after the thread design. Keep the one at the bottom as well.
Step 3: Social Media Game... Not So Strong
SupremeBB has little to NO social media presence. We don't have any social media accounts. We should really just have a Twitter, but still. This is a great way to get backlinks and keep in touch with your user base and interact in ways other than the forum. Now, that may sound bad for site activity, but it's actually good. The more active the Twitter is, the more it gets noticed in turn, the more people that notice and might go to sign up.

This can also be helped by having a "Twitter" award for users that tweet about SBB in a positive way and tag the SBB Twitter + link to SBB in the tweet.

Step 4: SEO is Mostly Pay to Play
Sadly, SEO has become mostly pay to play, that doesn't mean everything above isn't important though. But as I've stated before, talking to @2 he says all money goes back into paying for the server(s). That is really nice to be honest. But, will ultimately lead to the forums downfall in the end. Some money needs to be saved for paid advertising, not just on some PublicityClerks type stuff, I mean all out AdWords campaigns. PublicityClerks helps get people, but once you get everyone you can, AdWords helps the best. It is run by Google so it will definitely help with SEO on Google. It will also help broaden our keyword range from just "supremebb"

Conclusion
I am very interested to hear feedback to this, but please note, I will be harsh in response, just the way I am. Now, I expect others to be harsh as well, it just comes off that way. Either way, we're all here for the best interest of SBB, right? So I will take criticism, but make it CONSTRUCTIVE don't say "this is bullshit." explain why it is.

People who I want to see this thread, @1 @2 @3 @5 @14 @18 @40
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RE: #OpReviveSBB - Let's Get SBB Active Again! #2
Content by users is also a significant factor to reviving; you can bring the users to the forum, but you can't make them post. It's not about getting people to check the site; it's also getting users engaged in the community. If we advertise a dead forum, you're less likely to get someone registered. I know I've avoided forums in the past if they barely get any posts during the day, as there's no engagement. We need also to get who we have now and bring up our activity before getting advertisements back out there.

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RE: #OpReviveSBB - Let's Get SBB Active Again! #3
Most them members are still here it's just much more difficult for us all to be active when a large number are also occupied with school and college.

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RE: #OpReviveSBB - Let's Get SBB Active Again! #4
(10-11-2016, 04:51 AM)Kayo Wrote: Most them members are still here it's just much more difficult for us all to be active when a large number are also occupied with school and college.

Exactly. I posted something like @20 a week ago. It's easy to compile ideas when you have nothing to do. But implementing them is a challenge when you have a life; when you have school, a job, and other bullshit. Maybe during long breaks, when the admins and devs have time, they can do their magic and consider our ideas. Until then, we're chilling, riding the waves of life.
(This post was last modified: 10-11-2016, 05:46 AM by Theós.)

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RE: #OpReviveSBB - Let's Get SBB Active Again! #5
(10-11-2016, 05:46 AM)Theós Wrote:
(10-11-2016, 04:51 AM)Kayo Wrote: Most them members are still here it's just much more difficult for us all to be active when a large number are also occupied with school and college.

Exactly. I posted something like @20 a week ago. It's easy to compile ideas when you have nothing to do. But implementing them is a challenge when you have a life; when you have school, a job, and other bullshit. Maybe during long breaks, when the admins and devs have time, they can do their magic and consider our ideas. Until then, we're chilling, riding the waves of life.

There are so few long breaks though.

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RE: #OpReviveSBB - Let's Get SBB Active Again! #6
(10-11-2016, 08:12 AM)Zaiken Wrote: There are so few long breaks though.

Yup :3

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RE: #OpReviveSBB - Let's Get SBB Active Again! #7
This irritates me so much. If you want SBB to 'live' again then why the fuck don't you post more regularly, and rather than stupid shit or shit that's been posted already why not actually post something interesting. Ffs.
❮  Let's play a little game of Russian Roulette, you load the gun I'll put it to my head. ❯
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RE: #OpReviveSBB - Let's Get SBB Active Again! #8
You say SEO, if I'm honest I don't see how it'll help us much. Our threads are discussion based, people won't be searching "What's your cats name". SBB still has $40 ish in BTC. The reason why I haven't gone ahead and purchased a sticky is because it'll be ineffective. They'll see the site and then see the lack of posts per day, once we start to build up more activity and posting is consistent then I'll go ahead and purchase one.

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RE: #OpReviveSBB - Let's Get SBB Active Again! #9
I am actually amazed you wouldn't want me to see this thread, then again, competition might ruin your horribly inexperienced argument here. The reason I am amazed that you didn't want me to see this is that I am the creator of the thread design used in advertisement, and the writer of it. More than half of this thread is dedicated to the advertisement thread specifically (which my design takes a center role in), thus I do think I should have a say in it. (Though I will not take credit for anything else written in a advertisement post.) You talk a lot about "SEO", yet you seem to be fully unaware of what it means. (Much like a newbie designer who thinks UX is about the color scheme of a site.) 

SEO or Search Engine Optimization is about using keywords, content etc to ensure that a site is picked up by a search engine effectively. This is the very reason why "promotion forums" and alike exist, they ease the requirement for having good SEO on your own site. (It's like paying someone to clean your house.) By having say a poorly written advertisement thread on a "promotion forum" isn't bad SEO, it is bad PR. Failing to use keywords and the "right" content on your own site is "bad SEO". Thus your first exert from the thread is about PR and not SEO. (The site on which the thread is hosted is the one that deals with that, not he person that makes the thread. That is the entire idea of "promotion forums" and sites.) 

The next part also falls under PR, it is about giving out the "correct" information and avoid giving out anything that can be taken the wrong way, while at the same time trying to keep things interesting. That is PR, not SEO. (Simply because it is digital doesn't make it a magic SEO masterpiece.) This could be done either within the thread design or outside depending on what you are going for. (Though I generally believe that you should either use a design for everything or nothing at all.) When I wrote the text that is contained within the design I took a few key points into consideration. I wanted it to sound personal and down to earth, and not high and mighty as most people act when they are the leaders of something. 

However, I wanted it to sound optimistic and certain of itself. To get people to understand one thing (or at least make them believe so in case I was personally wrong about this), that the staff and community of SBB aren't those that give up and move on, that they won't just die. That they are certain of themselves to the point that they can promise that if you stick around, we'll drag ourselves out of the dirt and form a community unlike any. (Ironic as that seems now.) When I studied design and PR, my teachers noted me for almost philosophical writing talent, but said that in the end I might fail at delivering the right message or all the info needed. Which might be were I failed in the end, as I did try to fill the design with as much info as possible to avoid that.

You referred to the design as "more content" so I'll assume you are referring to it as "better than the rest of the thread". (Perfect or not.) Though your complaints regarding the thread as a hole makes little sense. "More content" isn't needed, more accurate content in place for in-correct might be. Though adding more text or any at all outside of the design will only confuse people. (Which is why I did voice my opinion on having text outside of the design when it was first used.) The design also does refer that we are a community of many colors and discussions, so there is no need to list it all at someplace. It is meant to spark interest for people to seek out themselves while also handing out immediate information. As for the link part, I'd just add it to the design itself, which was my original recommendation.

(10-11-2016, 03:41 PM)Silence Wrote: This irritates me so much. If you want SBB to 'live' again then why the fuck don't you post more regularly, and rather than stupid shit or shit that's been posted already why not actually post something interesting. Ffs.

Well, that is true. The ironic part here is that "SEO" has very little to do with his complaints.
(This post was last modified: 10-11-2016, 05:37 PM by yokai.)

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RE: #OpReviveSBB - Let's Get SBB Active Again! #10
(10-11-2016, 03:41 PM)Silence Wrote: This irritates me so much. If you want SBB to 'live' again then why the fuck don't you post more regularly, and rather than stupid shit or shit that's been posted already why not actually post something interesting. Ffs.

This is really stupid and I'll use some of your own posts and threads as examples.
https://supremebb.net/showthread.php?tid=2870
Take this for example, I could say "stop posting thread designs they've already been posted before" but you know why you don't see people saying that? Because it's different. I have my own opinion and more evidence and points than what others have said.

Also, I have more posts than you so that's pretty stupid as well to be honest.

(10-11-2016, 03:50 PM)Zodiac Wrote: You say SEO, if I'm honest I don't see how it'll help us much. Our threads are discussion based, people won't be searching "What's your cats name". SBB still has $40 ish in BTC. The reason why I haven't gone ahead and purchased a sticky is because it'll be ineffective. They'll see the site and then see the lack of posts per day, once we start to build up more activity and posting is consistent then I'll go ahead and purchase one.

Okay... Let me give you an example.
https://www.google.com/search?q=csgo+hack
MPGH is a game hacking discussion forum. Do you think SEO has anything to do with why it's popular? You don't see many advertisement threads for it, do you? Exactly. I'm sure they've had some in the past, yes, but the thing is they don't now. And SEO is a big part. Just because General Discussion is our most active forum doesn't mean our SEO has to be shit.

(10-11-2016, 05:36 PM)Crovus Wrote: I am actually amazed you wouldn't want me to see this thread, then again, competition might ruin your horribly inexperienced argument here. The reason I am amazed that you didn't want me to see this is that I am the creator of the thread design used in advertisement, and the writer of it. More than half of this thread is dedicated to the advertisement thread specifically (which my design takes a center role in), thus I do think I should have a say in it. (Though I will not take credit for anything else written in a advertisement post.) You talk a lot about "SEO", yet you seem to be fully unaware of what it means. (Much like a newbie designer who thinks UX is about the color scheme of a site.)

First of all, sorry I didn't go through the entire members list of SBB to hunt you down and tag you. Those are some people that came off the top of my head. So sorry I insulted you by not tagging you if you want some sort of sympathy.

Secondly,
Corvus Wrote:competition might ruin your horribly inexperienced argument here.
Wow you're smart, aren't you? What the hell does this mean to you:
Hype Wrote:I am very interested to hear feedback to this, but please note, I will be harsh in response, just the way I am. Now, I expect others to be harsh as well, it just comes off that way. Either way, we're all here for the best interest of SBB, right? So I will take criticism, but make it CONSTRUCTIVE don't say "this is bullshit." explain why it is.
In case you do not understand english that well let me explain, I WANTED feedback. I WANTED competition. I WANTED your opinions.

Thirdly,
Corvus Wrote:The reason I am amazed that you didn't want me to see this is that I am the creator of the thread design used in advertisement, and the writer of it.
Again, read the fucking thread and understand it.
Hype Wrote:So let me say something about the thread design, it looks good and all, BUT I want you to notice how much content is on it(text).
There I complemented the thread design. I didn't say there was a problem, and I honestly didn't know you made it. My point was that the image contained most of the content, and images don't do much as far as SEO goes. It's good for humans to read but to a bot it's almost meaningless. Now images can be good for SEO in some cases but the point is there needs to be more content OUTSIDE of the thread design as well.

Also, apparently you don't understand what I'm talking about when I talk about how it's "bad" for SEO. I never said it was negatively affecting SEO, I said it wasn't doing as much as it could. It's like having a car that runs vs a Bugatti. I could take the car that works just fine, but I would rather take a Bugatti since it runs more efficiently and looks nicer.

I also only brought up the thread design as most of the content of the advertisements consisted of the image which doesn't help as much as hard textual content.

Look at this,
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We have a total of 3 linking sites. We just might have a couple more, but still, that's a very low amount.

Now let's look at the anchors for these backlinks,
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So... from this what keywords have we got... Oh yeah SupremeBB. That's it.

So pretty shit if you ask me.

And going back up a bit "SEO or Search Engine Optimization is about using keywords, content etc to ensure that a site is picked up by a search engine effectively. "
That's the point I was trying to get across. We have little to no keywords linking to any sort of niche. The majority of the thread text wise is a list of custom features.
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