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New preference for new OS? #1
Hello all,
I'm currently looking for a new OS to use as my main. I'm needing opinions that provide my likings.
I've been on i3 Arch for awhile but, 2 much work with configurations and etc. I'm looking for DE Arch environment that is done everything and I can tweak some features to make it look presentable. I was hoping to use unixporn to make it look clean.  

I have come across arch cinnamon which looks nice aswell, recommended by a arch MATE but, don't know what to get in this case for desktop theme.
Any recommendations?
(This post was last modified: 05-19-2018, 04:44 AM by Vultra.)

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RE: New preference for new OS? #2
You could try to use WMutils and set something cool up from complete scratch. Not sure what you mean by 'that is done everything'
Other than that, you can try Sway (Wayland equivalent of i3), XFCE (a more complete DE that's pretty customizable), or OpenBox (a WM that has a menu and you can add stuff to it... Pretty bare, I like it though. I use it on my desktop)

As far as OSs go...
If you're insane, use Plan9 on a cluster
If you are too lazy for Arch, try Antergos
If you want something new, try a BSD, or macOS maybe
You might also want to look into Haiku OS, I liked it until I plugged in a flash drive, causing a kernel panic.

My favorite option is Plan9...


(11-02-2018, 02:51 AM)Skullmeat Wrote: Ok, there no real practical reason for doing this, but that's never stopped me.

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RE: New preference for new OS? #3
(05-19-2018, 04:53 AM)Ender Wrote: You could try to use WMutils and set something cool up from complete scratch. Not sure what you mean by 'that is done everything'
Other than that, you can try Sway (Wayland equivalent of i3), XFCE (a more complete DE that's pretty customizable), or OpenBox (a WM that has a menu and you can add stuff to it... Pretty bare, I like it though. I use it on my desktop)

As far as OSs go...
If you're insane, use Plan9 on a cluster
If you are too lazy for Arch, try Antergos
If you want something new, try a BSD, or macOS maybe
You might also want to look into Haiku OS, I liked it until I plugged in a flash drive, causing a kernel panic.

My favorite option is Plan9...

What I was meaning by 'that is done everything' was, it already has the audio installed and all the main features then all I have to do is make the desktop theme look nice.
The WM takes for ever to setup (well for me it does haha.). Was gonna take something so simple. I'll look into the options you mentioned Smile

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RE: New preference for new OS? #4
(05-19-2018, 05:11 AM)Mimiakira Wrote:
(05-19-2018, 04:53 AM)Ender Wrote: You could try to use WMutils and set something cool up from complete scratch. Not sure what you mean by 'that is done everything'
Other than that, you can try Sway (Wayland equivalent of i3), XFCE (a more complete DE that's pretty customizable), or OpenBox (a WM that has a menu and you can add stuff to it... Pretty bare, I like it though. I use it on my desktop)

As far as OSs go...
If you're insane, use Plan9 on a cluster
If you are too lazy for Arch, try Antergos
If you want something new, try a BSD, or macOS maybe
You might also want to look into Haiku OS, I liked it until I plugged in a flash drive, causing a kernel panic.

My favorite option is Plan9...

What I was meaning by 'that is done everything' was, it already has the audio installed and all the main features then all I have to do is make the desktop theme look nice.
The WM takes for ever to setup (well for me it does haha.). Was gonna take something so simple. I'll look into the options you mentioned  Smile

Then yeah, go for XFCE. By default it doesn't look great, but can be set up nicely.
Openbox doesn't really take a lot of configuration though, just you need to install stuff (installation of separate programs != configuration), like a dock/panel, and ALSA and whatnot.

EDIT:
I use tint2 with dmenu. I have a slightly dated screenshot here:
[Image: 2018-05-06--1525658986_1920x1080_scrot.png]
The Discord client is an alternative one called 'Ripcord'
(This post was last modified: 05-19-2018, 06:12 AM by Blink.)


(11-02-2018, 02:51 AM)Skullmeat Wrote: Ok, there no real practical reason for doing this, but that's never stopped me.

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RE: New preference for new OS? #5
(05-19-2018, 06:02 AM)Ender Wrote:
(05-19-2018, 05:11 AM)Mimiakira Wrote:
(05-19-2018, 04:53 AM)Ender Wrote: You could try to use WMutils and set something cool up from complete scratch. Not sure what you mean by 'that is done everything'
Other than that, you can try Sway (Wayland equivalent of i3), XFCE (a more complete DE that's pretty customizable), or OpenBox (a WM that has a menu and you can add stuff to it... Pretty bare, I like it though. I use it on my desktop)

As far as OSs go...
If you're insane, use Plan9 on a cluster
If you are too lazy for Arch, try Antergos
If you want something new, try a BSD, or macOS maybe
You might also want to look into Haiku OS, I liked it until I plugged in a flash drive, causing a kernel panic.

My favorite option is Plan9...

What I was meaning by 'that is done everything' was, it already has the audio installed and all the main features then all I have to do is make the desktop theme look nice.
The WM takes for ever to setup (well for me it does haha.). Was gonna take something so simple. I'll look into the options you mentioned  Smile

Then yeah, go for XFCE. By default it doesn't look great, but can be set up nicely.
Openbox doesn't really take a lot of configuration though, just you need to install stuff (installation of separate programs != configuration), like a dock/panel, and ALSA and whatnot.

EDIT:
I use tint2 with dmenu. I have a slightly dated screenshot here:
[Image: 2018-05-06--1525658986_1920x1080_scrot.png]
The Discord client is an alternative one called 'Ripcord'

Is it still possible to have a WM as a secondary boot up like, I can log out of DE and be into WM?

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RE: New preference for new OS? #6
(05-24-2018, 09:04 AM)Mimiakira Wrote:
(05-19-2018, 06:02 AM)Ender Wrote:
(05-19-2018, 05:11 AM)Mimiakira Wrote: What I was meaning by 'that is done everything' was, it already has the audio installed and all the main features then all I have to do is make the desktop theme look nice.
The WM takes for ever to setup (well for me it does haha.). Was gonna take something so simple. I'll look into the options you mentioned  Smile

Then yeah, go for XFCE. By default it doesn't look great, but can be set up nicely.
Openbox doesn't really take a lot of configuration though, just you need to install stuff (installation of separate programs != configuration), like a dock/panel, and ALSA and whatnot.

EDIT:
I use tint2 with dmenu. I have a slightly dated screenshot here:
[Image: 2018-05-06--1525658986_1920x1080_scrot.png]
The Discord client is an alternative one called 'Ripcord'

Is it still possible to have a WM as a secondary boot up like, I can log out of DE and be into WM?

DE doesn't mean much, all it is is the applications for your WM.


For example, for the common desktop environment, LXDE:
Windowing System: X11
Display Manager (DM): LXDM
Window Manager (WM): Openbox
Desktop Environment (DE): LXDE, which is the following programs:
  • LXSession (starts all of these programs)
  • LXPanel (Application panel)
  • LXLauncher (Application launcher)
  • LXTerminal (Terminal emulator)
  • PCManFM (File manager)
  • LXNM (Network manager)
  • LXRandR (RandR GUI)
  • LXAppearance (Theme switcher)
  • LXInput (Mouse/keyboard configuration tool)
  • LXMusic (Music player)
  • LXTask (Task manager)
  • Leafpad (Text editor)
  • Xarchiver (Archive manager)
  • ObConf (Openbox configuration tool)
  • GPicView (Image viewer)

All of these programs can be individually added to Openbox (like in my setup), and are easily replaced by other programs (Tint2 replaces LXPanel in my case).
You generally don't 'log out' of a DE. You can do so with a WM if you are using a display manager (otherwise you'd need to log out of the shell too), but logging out of a DE would just be exiting all those applications at once, which doesn't do much except leave you without a panel.
(This post was last modified: 05-25-2018, 06:29 AM by Blink.)


(11-02-2018, 02:51 AM)Skullmeat Wrote: Ok, there no real practical reason for doing this, but that's never stopped me.

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RE: New preference for new OS? #7
(05-25-2018, 06:28 AM)Ender Wrote:
(05-24-2018, 09:04 AM)Mimiakira Wrote:
(05-19-2018, 06:02 AM)Ender Wrote: Then yeah, go for XFCE. By default it doesn't look great, but can be set up nicely.
Openbox doesn't really take a lot of configuration though, just you need to install stuff (installation of separate programs != configuration), like a dock/panel, and ALSA and whatnot.

EDIT:
I use tint2 with dmenu. I have a slightly dated screenshot here:
[Image: 2018-05-06--1525658986_1920x1080_scrot.png]
The Discord client is an alternative one called 'Ripcord'

Is it still possible to have a WM as a secondary boot up like, I can log out of DE and be into WM?

DE doesn't mean much, all it is is the applications for your WM.


For example, for the common desktop environment, LXDE:
Windowing System: X11
Display Manager (DM): LXDM
Window Manager (WM): Openbox
Desktop Environment (DE): LXDE, which is the following programs:
  • LXSession (starts all of these programs)
  • LXPanel (Application panel)
  • LXLauncher (Application launcher)
  • LXTerminal (Terminal emulator)
  • PCManFM (File manager)
  • LXNM (Network manager)
  • LXRandR (RandR GUI)
  • LXAppearance (Theme switcher)
  • LXInput (Mouse/keyboard configuration tool)
  • LXMusic (Music player)
  • LXTask (Task manager)
  • Leafpad (Text editor)
  • Xarchiver (Archive manager)
  • ObConf (Openbox configuration tool)
  • GPicView (Image viewer)

All of these programs can be individually added to Openbox (like in my setup), and are easily replaced by other programs (Tint2 replaces LXPanel in my case).
You generally don't 'log out' of a DE.  You can do so with a WM if you are using a display manager (otherwise you'd need to log out of the shell too), but logging out of a DE would just be exiting all those applications at once, which doesn't do much except leave you without a panel.

Ah right. Because, I'm running Arch xfce DE and wondering how I can login into i3 or some sort of WM.

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RE: New preference for new OS? #8
(05-25-2018, 06:54 AM)Mimiakira Wrote:
(05-25-2018, 06:28 AM)Ender Wrote:
(05-24-2018, 09:04 AM)Mimiakira Wrote: Is it still possible to have a WM as a secondary boot up like, I can log out of DE and be into WM?

DE doesn't mean much, all it is is the applications for your WM.


For example, for the common desktop environment, LXDE:
Windowing System: X11
Display Manager (DM): LXDM
Window Manager (WM): Openbox
Desktop Environment (DE): LXDE, which is the following programs:
  • LXSession (starts all of these programs)
  • LXPanel (Application panel)
  • LXLauncher (Application launcher)
  • LXTerminal (Terminal emulator)
  • PCManFM (File manager)
  • LXNM (Network manager)
  • LXRandR (RandR GUI)
  • LXAppearance (Theme switcher)
  • LXInput (Mouse/keyboard configuration tool)
  • LXMusic (Music player)
  • LXTask (Task manager)
  • Leafpad (Text editor)
  • Xarchiver (Archive manager)
  • ObConf (Openbox configuration tool)
  • GPicView (Image viewer)

All of these programs can be individually added to Openbox (like in my setup), and are easily replaced by other programs (Tint2 replaces LXPanel in my case).
You generally don't 'log out' of a DE.  You can do so with a WM if you are using a display manager (otherwise you'd need to log out of the shell too), but logging out of a DE would just be exiting all those applications at once, which doesn't do much except leave you without a panel.

Ah right. Because, I'm running Arch xfce DE and wondering how I can login into i3 or some sort of WM.

XFCE is XFWM + XFCE utils.
Most display managers (LightDM, MDM, SLiM, etc) allow for easy switching at the click of a button. Just log out, and switch in the login menu of the DM.


(11-02-2018, 02:51 AM)Skullmeat Wrote: Ok, there no real practical reason for doing this, but that's never stopped me.

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