[Silence]

So. How about we implement a marketplace system, such as EzTradeSystem, so members can give Positive, Negative or Neutral vouches for TRADES. No, this is not covered by Rep. This is a completely different system that can be set so it is only shown in Marketplace threads. Aka, the Vouch System.

Another thing that could be added is a "Vouch Thread" sub-section where members can create a SINGLE thread, then people can go to said thread to give details about the trade (was it a purchase, sale or a trade of items/currency), when it happened, the value of the transaction, if a middle man was used, who went first, etc. etc. as well as their vouch - I'm sure you could find something to make this all automated and only able to be posted via a form of sorts; that is if you are not wanting to install something more professional like EzTradeSystem.

Benefits of Using This

• It will allow members to see who is a trustworthy trader.
  
• Members who may be new can have more faith in a member with a high reputation, however the rep isn't for anything but mere activity, rendering it useless for a sale.
  
• We can view who is an active seller and when their last deal was.
  
• Allows for a separate "reputation system" that is strictly marketplace related, and it can't be abused with a -/+10 or similar, it can only be done on a case to case basis, thus causing less chance of abuse (can be monitored).
  
• Separates those who have a reputation for being a meme, nice member, etc. from those who are active sellers and can be trusted. Friendly =/= Trusted.
  

Cons of Using This:

• Will end up making another thing for the staff to monitor.
  
• Cannot be completely monitored, thus there can be "vouch abuse."
  
• New Members who have only been on the forum for a short time, or those will little posts, will have less of a chance to do deals with members if they have no reputation, so if a "Vouch System" is implemented it may lessen that already small chance.
  
• If the ezTrader System is used, it will have to be configured for site use before it is able to be aesthetically pleasing and functioning properly.
  

[Double06]

I agree to the whole suggestion, but find it might be a lot of work for a forum with a not-so active marketplace (in my opinion).

I could be completely wrong considering I haven't been here long and might be wrong about the marketplace.

[Shin]

Indeed, I agree with this, so more people would trust you, instead of being NOT trusted.
The thing with this, is how you start to make them trust you.
But overall, I agree with it.

[Boudica]

As I say with many recommendations - If enough people agree with it, there's a higher chance of it being implemented.

I like the concept. However, at the current rate of marketplace activity, there'd need to be enough demand to justify adding this.

[mothered]

I'm In support of this suggestion.

In my views, I believe the pros out-weigh the cons however as mentioned, activity plays a significant contributing factor In it's Implementation.

[Silence]

Don't you feel that if there was some sort of a trust system that more people would be inclined to use the Marketplace? If you look at other forums that have a similar feature, their marketplaces are generally active. If we look at all of the recent scan reports as well as the people who have been saying they use the services they got scammed due to high reputation rather than actual marketplace trust, it could have been avoided.

And regardless of how active it is currently, this is something that is actually fairly necessary in my opinion for ANY forum with a marketplace.

[Dismas]

Won't stop people from forging exchanges or abusing it. Also won't stop exit scammers. I feel like the reputation system as it is could address things better.

[Double06]

Oni is right, won't stop the mindset of an exit-scammer or people who would build up their market reputations through rigged exchanges.

What about an automated scripted middleman?

Many questions come into line with such a proposition starting from logic and ending to anywhere near vulnerabilities. (Frankly might be too much work)

It's just a very vast idea thrown out there but for example: BTC > Product (exchange).

1. User X sends BTC to Sinisterly's automated middleman account with username's field address (seller to PM).
2. Bot confirms amount received with a simple blockchain verification process and sends User Z a PM with successful received funds.
3. User Z (seller) sends product to User X (buyer) (through Sinisterly PM).
4. If User X (buyer) is satisfied he can release the funds with a button.
4a. If User X (buyer) is unsatisfied he can freeze funds with a button. (freezing them for a moderator to step in and examine the situation to prevent scam).

This is just a very general brief idea of a potential idea. Feel free to add along.

[Silence]

Won't stop people from forging exchanges or abusing it. Also won't stop exit scammers. I feel like the reputation system as it is could address things better.

It's not supposed to stop foreign exchanges and abuse would be minimal as you could require proof to be shown. The reputation system can not, nor will it, address things better. If you look at a variety of rep logs, you can see ridiculous rep given for dumb reasons. An exit scammer will exit scam regardless, it allows people to have better faith in who they are dealing with and see who is an active seller, when the last sale was, etc.

Oni is right, won't stop the mindset of an exit-scammer or people who would build up their market reputations through rigged exchanges.

What about an automated scripted middleman?

Many questions come into line with such a proposition starting from logic and ending to anywhere near vulnerabilities. (Frankly might be too much work)

It's just a very vast idea thrown out there but for example: BTC > Product (exchange).

1. User X sends BTC to Sinisterly's automated middleman account with username's field address (seller to PM).
2. Bot confirms amount received with a simple blockchain verification process and sends User Z a PM with successful received funds.
3. User Z (seller) sends product to User X (buyer) (through Sinisterly PM).
4. If User X (buyer) is satisfied he can release the funds with a button.
4a. If User X (buyer) is unsatisfied he can freeze funds with a button. (freezing them for a moderator to step in and examine the situation to prevent scam).

This is just a very general brief idea of a potential idea. Feel free to add along.

That won't work as there are too many products being sold with too mang various payment methods. What about steam trades? Will they create a bot? What about for PayPal options, or Skrill, or Payza, GooglePay, Amazon Gift Cards, etc.

[Silence]

I agree to the whole suggestion, but find it might be a lot of work for a forum with a not-so active marketplace (in my opinion).

I could be completely wrong considering I haven't been here long and might be wrong about the marketplace.

Also, it isn't a lot of work in the slightest. It could take a maximum of 10 minutes to implement and configure depending on their internet speeds.