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RE: Life #101
(06-25-2013, 07:09 PM)noize Wrote:
(06-25-2013, 06:11 PM)Astrophysics Wrote:
(06-25-2013, 03:43 PM)noize Wrote: Religion is not equal to god. There are many religions with more than one god or with no god at all. For the latter ones, I could say Buddhism Taoism.

Monotheistic religions such as Christianity do for if there were no "holy scriptures" or mindless followers how can the abrahamic god can exists
beyond the scope of a mad man?

Well, you just said religion needs a god. That's not true, I think also atheism is a religion.
I said "Monotheistic religions" chap , and what you think is not relative, open up a dictionary lad.


RE: Life #102
(06-20-2013, 03:53 AM)Astrophysics Wrote: There is no disparity between a god claim and a religion. A religion is defined as an ideological belief based around a supernatural agency or "holy" text, .Virtually all god claims are claimed in a way that can't be anything except supernatural.

For all intents and purposes a religion=god
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RE: Life #103
Hmm...I was thinking the other day...you people, who believe in God...which is the God you believe in? If you don't believe in some kind of Egiptian Gods, then why do you believe in God in the first place? Believing in one and not the other...


RE: Life #104
(06-25-2013, 09:06 AM)Astrophysics Wrote: This is again more emotional projection, this time in the form of a dismissive ad hominem meant to devalue me for not believing in or not understanding your bible in a outer greater context . Telling me "this isn't really for my benefit, it is for your own". Since, having devalued my humanity, you don't have to take me seriously.
It also speaks to a larger issue in that you are completely unconcerned with validating the merits of your own religious "moral" belief. You are inherently more concerned with just getting us to acknowledge or repeat the rhetorical aspects of your belief "moral" system in the form of platitudes biblical nonsense. As if verbalizing components of your belief were all that were required for belief itself. You've reduced your belief set to a series of mantras both to reaffirm to yourself and to dismiss people out of hand who don't engage in that reaffirmation.We are not limited to a dichotomy of such thinly veiled anthropomorphic projection of yourself or no god. We don't have to choose between your god or no god, we instead of an infinite variety of supernatural claims to consider or humbly admit that we do not believe what we do not know.Work and college has been robbing quite a bit of time so do forgiven for not playing the full game :lub:.

Essentially what you're stating here is that you had no viable rebuttal other than the words of an individual that attempts to take the context of the following discussion into another direction while conveniently leaving out the valid points to negate your dissertation on the babbling nonsense you just spewed from the wrong region of where your brain most assuredly does not belong.
Here we have me raping your humanity with but a single rebuttal.
Here we have me booting your Ego so far up your arse, your shit cheeks are surely to be found relocated betwixt your shoulder blades in a most bemused spectacle of amusement.
Here we have a man created in the image of God laughing and pointing at the monkey stuck in a cage of it's own design and babbling for it's freedom, all the while completely overlooking the opposing cage door standing wide open where that very freedom beckons.
Understand the difference with your assumption versus my very words?
Excellent.
Because up Until now, my statements have been directly to the point based upon established evidences (read...plural) in correction of misconceptions, followed by "others are free in what choice they make in regards to these statements", which up Until now has been nothing but respectfull to all who have been addressed.
Now, we have me taking your attempt at amusement being turned to my very own amusement.
Followed by a cackle of evil delight at overlooking the flawed line of thought that I am "emotionally justifying what I believe" versus the factual statement repeated many times that there is no need for I to be emotional in justifying God when the Bible is Justified and all therein that is written against such rhetoric that you and many have repeated in the pursuit of justifying what has no means of being justified.
Hence the long conversing on the subject material.
Hence the subject material not so much being dismissed when such such was dismissed long before it became an issue with so many seeking to justify what cannot be justified.:lol:
Regarding your use of "us", I recall very specifically addressing You, not "us".
"Us" cannot obfuscate what has been justified, thus needing no justification.
"Us" can only attempt to move forward with any given, chosen belief until all refuge of what one chooses to believe has been removed by time and experience to the point that there is no longer any further refuge from what is freely given to one and all as it has always been with a door that is wide open for those who eventually choose to be rid of "belief" in light of a doorway that has always been open.
Thus, do yourself a favor and be so kind as to not give me cannon fodder that has been spouted thru the ages with the same nonsense that can never truly be justified. When you fling shit upwards and quite clearly into the air, keep in mind gravity must act to bring it back earthward as per the very Law Of Physics your Neanderthal minded, babbling whimsical choice of stupidity affords you.Biggrin
The game is afoot?
My dear friend, the foot has been buried Nether Region-ward in your direction all along.
Is your arse so loose and wide that you had not noticed?

P.S.-Monkeys who willingly allow themselves to be entrapped in cages of their own design are not entitled to "humanity", let alone the raping of that "humanity".
P.S.S.-You've been demoted back to Neanderthal status.
P.S.S.S.-Please repeat the evolutionary process one more time for your intellectual benefit.:lol:

Footnote: Now do you see the difference of all previous conversation contextual wise Before versus the direct context you read now?
This rebuttal is far more offensive than what all other statements made by me before. Make note of the difference that we may pursue more productive conversation instead of me abusing your intellect to validate 2 differing contexts of how I spoke versus how I now speak.


RE: Life #105
(06-25-2013, 09:57 PM)FunKx Wrote: Hmm...I was thinking the other day...you people, who believe in God...which is the God you believe in? If you don't believe in some kind of Egiptian Gods, then why do you believe in God in the first place? Believing in one and not the other...

Because believing in The God instead of any given, low budget god or Egyptian god is far more controversial.Confusedmoke:
Have you not been reading the very comments in this thread to already know this?:lol:

P.S.-Dear Astronomically Challenged Physique...trollololololing:whistle:


RE: Life #106
(06-26-2013, 02:18 AM)Linuxephusâ„¢ Wrote:
(06-25-2013, 09:57 PM)FunKx Wrote: Hmm...I was thinking the other day...you people, who believe in God...which is the God you believe in? If you don't believe in some kind of Egiptian Gods, then why do you believe in God in the first place? Believing in one and not the other...

Because believing in The God instead of any given, low budget god or Egyptian god is far more controversial.Confusedmoke:
Have you not been reading the very comments in this thread to already know this?:lol:

P.S.-Dear Astronomically Challenged Physique...trollololololing:whistle:

8 pages? I stopped at 4 :epic:
Anyway...people believe in one God, but not the others, while I call bullshit on all of them...this all means only one thing, they are not quite sure if God exists :epic:


RE: Life #107
(06-26-2013, 09:30 AM)FunKx Wrote: 8 pages? I stopped at 4 :epic:
Anyway...people believe in one God, but not the others, while I call bullshit on all of them...this all means only one thing, they are not quite sure if God exists :epic:

Indeed, 8 pages of reading is alot of in depth reading.
Rest assured though, it's well worth the time spent reading as all who participated have quite literally lain bare what they truly believe, which as logic dictates was the purpose in allowing the thread to move forward to begin with.
In regards to whether one is sure or not of God's existence, thus leading them to choose any number of given idols, this leads to key statements being made and letting the individual choose for themselves as such.
If it involves me, my job first and foremost is educate based upon what is written.
It is better to make an informed decision versus a decision based upon a lack of knowledge in the subject being presented.
And God sure as hell doesn't need me justifying His existence when debates to the contrary have yet to prove anything other than yet another certainty to what so may strive to fight against.
The above passages are all that can be stated without repeating what is already written.
The rest remains but an individual choice one way or the other.








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