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In-N-Out Burger says they will not comply with vaccine mandate #1
'We refuse to become the vaccination police'
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The city of San Francisco temporarily closed an In-N-Out fast-food restaurant over the company’s refusal to force customers to prove they are vaccinated against the coronavirus.

The San Francisco Department of Public Health closed the Fisherman’s Wharf In-N-Out location on Oct. 14 after the popular burger joint did not check the vaccination status of customers, which violates an August mandate from the city requiring indoor diners to show proof of vaccination.

"Our store properly and clearly posted signage to communicate local vaccination requirements," In-N-Out Burger’s Chief Legal and Business Officer, Arnie Wensinger said in a statement to Fox News. "After closing our restaurant, local regulators informed us that our restaurant Associates must actively intervene by demanding proof of vaccination and photo identification from every Customer, then act as enforcement personnel by barring entry for any Customers without the proper documentation."

"We refuse to become the vaccination police for any government," Wensinger declared, slamming the San Francisco Department of Health's requirements as "unreasonable, invasive, and unsafe" and accusing the city of asking restaurants to "segregate Customers" based on vaccine documentation.

"We fiercely disagree with any government dictate that forces a private company to discriminate against customers who choose to patronize their business," the statement said. "This is clear governmental overreach and is intrusive, improper, and offensive."

The store has since reopened, but indoor dining is not available.


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This is a very interesting story, because it does raise concerns over exactly who is expected to police these mandates? The employer is expected to hire their own bouncers/security and kick anyone out who doesn't comply?
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RE: In-N-Out Burger says they will not comply with vaccine mandate #2
I agree with In N Out. I thinks it’s not an issue

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RE: In-N-Out Burger says they will not comply with vaccine mandate #3
Good on them for being non-compliant. It shouldn't be harder to buy fast food than it is to buy alcohol.
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RE: In-N-Out Burger says they will not comply with vaccine mandate #4
Compliancy will become the norm with all businesses and the like, a lot sooner than later.

It's a choice that companies will need to make - abide by government regulations, or shut up shop and lose everything.
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(10-22-2021, 03:23 AM)mothered Wrote: Compliancy will become the norm with all businesses and the like, a lot sooner than later.

It's a choice that companies will need to make - abide by government regulations, or shut up shop and lose everything.
So do what the government says or close up? Should the employers be responsible for paying security and discriminating against the customers who aren’t vaccinated? Based on numbers, blacks are the highest number in unvaccinated by race. This would be another reason to discriminate towards people of color.
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RE: In-N-Out Burger says they will not comply with vaccine mandate #6
(10-23-2021, 05:58 AM)ghostboy Wrote:
(10-22-2021, 03:23 AM)mothered Wrote: Compliancy will become the norm with all businesses and the like, a lot sooner than later.

It's a choice that companies will need to make - abide by government regulations, or shut up shop and lose everything.
So do what the government says or close up? Should the employers be responsible for paying security and discriminating against the customers who aren’t vaccinated? Based on numbers, blacks are the highest number in unvaccinated by race. This would be another reason to discriminate towards people of color.
I have neither the time, nor the Inclination to comment on the government. Moreover, I'm not In a position to do so.

Like It or lump It, I'm just telling It like It Is and not the way I see It. I don't agree with their decision(s), but It Is what It Is.
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RE: In-N-Out Burger says they will not comply with vaccine mandate #7
(10-23-2021, 05:58 AM)ghostboy Wrote:
(10-22-2021, 03:23 AM)mothered Wrote: Compliancy will become the norm with all businesses and the like, a lot sooner than later.

It's a choice that companies will need to make - abide by government regulations, or shut up shop and lose everything.
So do what the government says or close up? Should the employers be responsible for paying security and discriminating against the customers who aren’t vaccinated? Based on numbers, blacks are the highest number in unvaccinated by race. This would be another reason to discriminate towards people of color.

I don't think it's anyone's particular intention to discriminate against black people, or any minority group (the UK looks at BAME overall as the people affected, not just black people). The government is looking for a way to encourage people to get their vaccines as the US has massively fallen behind the rest of the western world on vaccines. They've obviously thought the best way to do this is to limit what people can or can't do, as a means of persuading them to give in.

Naturally, this is possibly one of the most stupid pieces of legislation I've seen from America in the last couple years (although the heartbeat abortion laws are worse, but that's another topic for another day). How they couldn't see this going tits up, I will never know. Noble intentions, moronic solution.

Do they really expect businesses to put themselves and their trade at risk to become the governments vaccine police force? I think not. If you complied, from a business perspective, your brand's reputation is at risk, your staff are heavily at risk of abuse and injury (let's face it, people have done worse for less provocation in this pandemic) and you may lose profits in a heartbeat. If trade will be affected long-term by complying anyway, it makes complete sense to take the risk of being shut-down in the hopes of retaining customer loyalty (better image for the brand).

That's just the business side of it. The morals side: It's just wrong to force a private company to do this. Especially if you're not willing to fund security and any damages to the business or staff.

There's also the issue that, actually, the most effective strategy for preventing virus spread, is social distancing is it not? Yes the vaccines make hell of a difference, but pissing people off will never convince them. It will only make them more firm in their anti-vaccine beliefs.

Tl;dr - Government needs to find a better way, or expect to fail.

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