[Ethereal]

I believe we do not need a mythological figure of justification and good will to be able to function as what society deems, "Good." We can easily make our own choices and decide whether or not we want to do what we do, and if anyone follows an unproven, more than likely nonexistent deity to the exact fine point for their morals than I have nothing but pity for them.

[Hades]

It's our own choice to have moral acts. I find that higher powers are useless, and not real.

[Hoodie]

It's our own choice to have moral acts. I find that higher powers are useless, and not real.

I'm not the religious type, nor am I trying to pick a fight here..but you cannot discount what you cannot prove. It's a paradox, you chose not to believe, but you cannot see for certain nothing exists. I myself am not very religious, but I put my faith somewhere.

As for moral acts, religious is pointless. It's called common sense.

[Guardian]

Absolutely not. I'm a Pantheist, which doesn't believe in a god, and I believe myself to maintain standards that would be characteristic of high morals. Religious 'morals' usually lead to oppression of minority groups and I feel religions actually promote hate in their name. Not publicly, but you don't have Atheist fundamentalists. You do have Christian and Islamic fundamentalists whose goal is to oppress in a sadistic moral system. No thank you.

[Hoodie]

Absolutely not. I'm a Pantheist, which doesn't believe in a god, and I believe myself to maintain standards that would be characteristic of high morals. Religious 'morals' usually lead to oppression of minority groups and I feel religions actually promote hate in their name. Not publicly, but you don't have Atheist fundamentalists. You do have Christian and Islamic fundamentalists whose goal is to oppress in a sadistic moral system. No thank you.

Yet again I'll reply on this thread, as oppressive as the religions are to others (I do agree on that), it's based off of them trying to share their beliefs. Do I agree with how they shove it down your throat? Nope, no I do not. I myself am Catholic, and hate attending church. Yet I still pray and or hope for somethings, sometimes. Yet I've tried to understand more of a Muslim approach, and to my avail it's much more peaceful. Not the whole "ALLIIHUU AKBAR" thing. Their type of praying, within their standards is actually quite nice. I'm still a slight Catholic, but religions are just trying to share with others is what I'm trying to say. Although, they are approaching them the incorrect way. Sort of a redundant reply, but I just wanted to give some insight from the other point of view.

[Harvey]

If you ask me, believing in a god is only reason to act immorally. By looking at science and reason, we act morally.

[Ethereal]

If you ask me, believing in a god is only reason to act immorally. By looking at science and reason, we act morally.

Exactly. From my experience living in the bible belt, I have seen so many immoral acts due to them believing that repenting allows for them to do so and it sickens me that a religion teaches its members those ways.

[Guardian]

If you ask me, believing in a god is only reason to act immorally. By looking at science and reason, we act morally.

Exactly. We do the right thing because it's the right thing to do. Not because our actions whether good or bad will get us into a mythical afterlife.

[Dragon]

Those who justify immoral behaviors on the simple fact that they are not of similar beliefs, are close-minded people.

Being morally correct does not require a higher power. If there is, so be it. But in the mean time you need no excuse, just do it.

[Ethereal]

Those who justify immoral behaviors on the simple fact that they are not of similar beliefs, are close-minded people.

Being morally correct does not require a higher power. If there is, so be it. But in the mean time you need no excuse, just do it.

Actually how I feel about the subject. Nice to see some people who have the same ideals as myself.