[Flashdrive]

I didn't say that science was all assumptions, but your going off-topic now, I was talking about this topic when I said that religion and science both include assumptions, and that's a stone cold FACT, you assume that there 'must' be other life forms because of the amount of planets that you calculated. On the other hand, I assume that there isn't other intelligent life forms because I 'BELIEVE' that god created us, and that there is a heaven and hell.

Science makes assumptions made with fact.
I wouldn't even call what religion does assumptions i'd call it blatantly just making things up.

I assume that life exist because of how much things we know, water isn't rare which is one of the main things for life and to create a universe. We've found planets made of water just within a not that far away distance space talking.

I just want to know how you will defend your religion once we find the link to how life came to be from no living cells to living ones.

[Prince]

So what you are basically claiming is that religion is a 'lie' and that it's 'fake' which is totally oblivious to that fact that various religions have contributed towards Science(Feel free to google it).

Also, until all of science assumptions have been made, this debate isn't going to get anywhere.

My opinion stays the same, Aliens don't exist.

[Flashdrive]

So what you are basically claiming is that religion is a 'lie' and that it's 'fake' which is totally oblivious to that fact that various religions have contributed towards Science(Feel free to google it).

Also, until all of science assumptions have been made, this debate isn't going to get anywhere.

My opinion stays the same, Aliens don't exist.

I almost died of laughter.

Show me articles where something from religion aided in science discoveries from it's ancient texts any religion at all?

[Prince]

I almost died of laughter.

Show me articles where something from religion aided in science discoveries from it's ancient texts any religion at all?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8472111.stm

There was a stand on Islam and how it's helped the scientific community, in the National Science Museum in London.

[Flashdrive]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8472111.stm

There was a stand on Islam and how it's helped the scientific community, in the National Science Museum in London.

At least read this article just because a person believes in a religion does not mean that religion helped the world. I mean from a religious text that had scientific proof that helped scientist.

[Prince]

At least read this article just because a person believes in a religion does not mean that religion helped the world. I mean from a religious text that had scientific proof that helped scientist.

Here's one that's written in the Qur'aan about the planets in orbit.

http://www.quranandscience.com/islam-and...orbit.html

Feel free to take a read, however I just skimmed upon it. On that site there's tons of other scientific fact's which are also stated in one way or another in the Qur'aan.

[Flashdrive]

Here's one that's written in the Qur'aan about the planets in orbit.

http://www.quranandscience.com/islam-and...orbit.html

Feel free to take a read, however I just skimmed upon it. On that site there's tons of other scientific fact's which are also stated in one way or another in the Qur'aan.

Yes but did that contribute to the scientific community? sure it may hold some relevance but that's now how we learned about this sure it does talk about orbiting planets but it could have just left out the words swimming and it would of made even more sense.

Lets talk about the flaws inside of this quote shall we?

"And he is the one who created the night, daylight, sun and the moon, all swimming in an orbit"

Created the night, daylight? we all know now that the nighttime only comes because of the sun going down past he horizon why put both of these in here?

Created the sun? why would you create the sun and daylight when they're both from the same thing.

I know i'm over thinking this but that's what it is.

[Prince]

Yes but did that contribute to the scientific community? sure it may hold some relevance but that's now how we learned about this sure it does talk about orbiting planets but it could have just left out the words swimming and it would of made even more sense.

Lets talk about the flaws inside of this quote shall we?

"And he is the one who created the night, daylight, sun and the moon, all swimming in an orbit"

Created the night, daylight? we all know now that the nighttime only comes because of the sun going down past he horizon why put both of these in here?

Created the sun? why would you create the sun and daylight when they're both from the same thing.

I know i'm over thinking this but that's what it is.

The flaws of this quote? The English language didn't exist in the time the Qur'aan was written. You need to account for the fact that it's taken from context, and the Qur'aan is known to be a collection of stories explaining teachings of life, not an encyclopaedia.

[Flashdrive]

The flaws of this quote? The English language didn't exist in the time the Qur'aan was written. You need to account for the fact that it's taken from context, and the Qur'aan is known to be a collection of stories explaining teachings of life, not an encyclopaedia.

I'll just leave this thread with this link.

http://1000mistakes.com/1000mistakes/ind...01_003_010

[Gideon]

If you define aliens as creatures hitherto unknown to man, then no, I don't.
But if you define aliens as non-human intelligences, then yes I do.

I believe in 3 forms of "aliens";
God, angels and demons/devils.