[Eclipse]

Ok sorry I guess I needed to be more specific. I only said the arrest and incarceration rates because those I am sure of (I looked them up previously for a research paper). Feel free to look at unarmed deaths at the hands of police, or being stopped by police. I can say with little doubt that these numbers will probably show a similar trend, but once again I have not looked at them personally.

If you want a specific case of discrimination supported by statistics that do not include arrest/incarceration, take a look at NYC's stop and frisk: http://www.nyclu.org/content/stop-and-frisk-data

The numbers represent exactly what I was talking about earlier.

I've mostly agreed with whatever you've said, yet you somehow manage to still make it an argument.

OT: That link pretty much supports the expectations. Mostly people under the age of 25, and a general trend of just over half the stops being black. You'd have to go through the data yourself to find out what percentage of each group was actually innocent.

[DarkKnight]

RIP. Horrible viewing. Policing is a very tough job,but do officers have to forcefully engage with someone who is suicidal if there is no-one else in the vicinity who was at risk?
But then again, this is why police are looked down upon at times.

[Dyme]

I've mostly agreed with whatever you've said, yet you somehow manage to still make it an argument.

OT: That link pretty much supports the expectations. Mostly people under the age of 25, and a general trend of just over half the stops being black. You'd have to go through the data yourself to find out what percentage of each group was actually innocent.

Ugh you're a lost hope I'm giving up

[mothered]

In a use of deadly force situation one is trained to shoot until the threat is neutralized. Deadly force is justifiable homicide if the person using deadly force reasonably believes there is an immediate threat of death or severe bodily harm to self or others.

Provided It's warranted, yes I agree.

In this case, where's the "deadly force?". A man who's In a wheelchair with no weapon used (nor found), and no direct or Indirect attack against the officers, Is no threat whatsoever.

[roger_smith]

Provided It's warranted, yes I agree.

In this case, where's the "deadly force?". A man who's In a wheelchair with no weapon used (nor found), and no direct or Indirect attack against the officers, Is no threat whatsoever.

I haven't watched the video so I don't know the context.

However, the "deadly force" would be the peace officer (yes that's what they are suppose to be) firing his weapon. If that officer reasonably and genuinely believed himself or another person to be in immediate danger of great bodily harm or death, he would be found to have acted in a justifiable manner. The same holds true to an armed citizen using their firearm in self defense.

[mothered]

I haven't watched the video so I don't know the context.

However, the "deadly force" would be the peace officer (yes that's what they are suppose to be) firing his weapon. If that officer reasonably and genuinely believed himself or another person to be in immediate danger of great bodily harm or death, he would be found to have acted in a justifiable manner. The same holds true to an armed citizen using their firearm in self defense.

Yes, I see your point.

I just couldn't see anything In the video that warrants the shooting. Until a full Investigation takes place, It's somewhat arduous to be definitive one way or another.

[Earth]

Yes, I see your point.

I just couldn't see anything In the video that warrants the shooting. Until a full Investigation takes place, It's somewhat arduous to be definitive one way or another.

"In the footage, a witness can be heard saying "put your hands up" and "he's reaching again." But it's not obvious what exactly the man was doing with his hands just before the shots rang out."

If you look at the video closely you can see him reaching towards his waist/pocket. Now I personally do not see a firearm however the man shot himself earlier and the police supposedly found "The handicapped man, Jeremy McDole, was armed with a .38-caliber gun"

If he shot himself earlier and that was the reason the police were called if they see him reaching instead of doing what he was instructed to do then the cops are going to fire the man did have multiple chances to put his hands up. The worst thing to do is reach anywhere whether it be on your or in a car, etc unless the officer instructs you to.

[Eclipse]

Ugh you're a lost hope I'm giving up

Whatever.

[Earth]

Interesting on how this thread turned out to be.

[Customer]

Saw this on worldstar..

"That was so cool!"